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How does your turning tray work, is it different than the ones I have used? The egg turners I have always used were constantly turning back and forth, except very slowly. There was definitely an increase in incubator temp when using an egg turner, but because the turner was always moving the...

Ok, sorry, I misread part of the original post.

What were you saying, "even without moving them every day"? I take this to mean turning your eggs, correct? Just how often do you turn the eggs during incubation? With 4 incubations and two incubators, and zero success, I would be looking for a user error, lol