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That’s interesting and makes sense. Thank you for that info it answers some things I did wonder about, Then I agree castor is black agouti plus Rufus that was not how it was explained to me unfortunately

You know what the more I think about it the more I like the chestnut/castor thing.

Steels is caused by the steel gene. Yes they should know what is showable and isn’t but a pet quality Rex is still called a rex if you take a bad quality castor or as you call it a chestnut and keep the redder ones you can in years get showable castors. I will not argue with you anymore.

I would argue that it is castor but not showable castor all most all colours are not showable if you start mixing them. you are correct about the chinchilla I missed that, but they still look like black agoutis to me since they look slightly brown

If you want to know any more feel free to ask

He is self chocolate Bred with your chinchilla he will produce castors as well as self blacks

The ones circled look like castors

That is probably castor

Does he have any colour on his legs, ears, nostrils or cheeks those are the place you can see otter markings.

So the kits can be Black agouti called castor in rexs or chestnut in most other breeds AaBbCc^chdB-E- black self aaBbCc^chdB-E- if he is otter Black otter a^taBbCc^chdB-E if the doe carries chocolate then you can get chocolate version of all of these. And all of them may be broken or not

Your buck is self broken chocolate Unless he is otter His genotype is aabbC-D-E- Or a^tabbC-D-E- a because he is self a because he would not be self if he had anything else b because he is chocolate b because if he had any thing else he would not be chocolate C because Because heis not...

Your does is black agouti with the chinchilla gene which gets ride of the yellow pigment So her genotype Is AaB-c^chd-D-E- A because she is agouti a because the offspring get one gene per allele from each parent B because she is black - because I don’t now if she carries chocolate c^chd...

Black is dominant so they need one to show Chocolate is recessive so they need two to show B= black gene b= chocolate gene So your buck is bb His siblings are probably Bb Otter is made with the tan gene its is on the same allele as self and agouti Agouti is dominant tan is recessive to agouti...

They look like normal brokens to me. Middle picture is black broken might be otter, bottom One is broken castor I think not to sure

The buck can’t carry black or otter, he can only carry otter if he is an agouti of some sort, And since he is chocolate he can’t carry black