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You have described just about my feeling on the matter very well. My father in law does organic very religiously and has mediocre results. Him and I grow blueberries and ... well he grows bushes I should say and I have so many berries that I let the chickens in to eat them (funny to watch them...

I think the difference that is the most contentious is when one side claims their way is better. The organic crowd say they are environmentally friendlier and the commercial ag say they are more efficient for example. The facts are there are good well intentioned farmers and there are bad...

I like fried okra and with the tomatoes sounds good but you lost me with the tripe had that, but not again.

I suppose this could apply to people as some are prone to cancer and other illnesses more than others. Quote: If the only independent variable in a controlled study was GMO versus non-GMO (as in, if one group was fed a diet high in GMO soy, the other must be fed an otherwise identical diet...

I'm not sure what you mean, bad food to the organic folk isn't always bad to me I just thought that someone would invent a pill or something that would nullify any bad food issues. I am not really one who believes all non organics bad but I put more faith in eating all foods in moderation and...

Is it as good as it sounds? perchie.girl : Quote: doin a study right now. Okra rolled in cornmeal and fried in bacon grease..... heh heh heh... sorry I will go back to lurkdome....

I would like to see a study on just plain old food. Results would probably be similar. Funny they only post results from the GMO stuff. Rats can eat a lot of stuff that is toxic and live. Not to disagree for the sake of disagreeing I just don't have any faith in studies on either side of the...

Do you think the small organic farmer, if there is a larger demand for his produce will do what big Ag does to meet demands? The hope for increased profits has the same effect on the little guy just as much as the next guy.

The study in this report was funded by the Packard foundation, hardly an unbiased study you haveto admit. Quote:

Big Ag is for the masses always has been always will be unless it is hamstrung by court orders. A Good stable supply of cheap produce is what the masses want and big ag has came through, who knows maybe organic is better but does it really matter? If you cannot afford to buy organic the point is...

I think you are right Bart when has the government taken over anything and it worked? U.S. Postal Service?

Good point, organic farming practices have issues with runoff and their farms could potentially effect the down hill/stream farms changing soil ph, manure residue and the like. I would not like an organic farm near my place I own machinery and do welding and other things and the organic farmers...

Are you sure Organic by modern definition was practiced a century ago? If your plow animal crapped in the field after eating some feed that was treated with a mold inhibitor would your field be Organic? Most diseases that seeds are immune to nowadays would have a heyday back then. The folks...

Well Kim I am glad it is working out for you fine folks. Were you and your family sick all the time before you went organic or did someone turn you all onto it? Quote: NO Chcickened We do not drink, I use all natural herbal deodorant no perfume it makes me sneeze, We can not afford to go to...

It was a metaphore. Quote: Commercial farming, in the form against which organic farming rebels, is less than a century old. "Centuries ago" there was only organic, because technology did not yet offer an alternative. :-) ~Chris

Not to get personal but do you use deodorant or perfume? if so you are supporting Monsanto, drink alcohol? supporting Monsanto, Go to Disneyland or Disney World? supporting Monsanto, Use certain pharmaceutical? supporting Monsanto, they have their finger in alot of stuff. They put caffeine in...

I have a question, should an organic farmer be able to start organic gardening in the middle of corporate farm ground that has been commercially farmed for centuries and then cry fowl. Quote: The very fact that GMO firms HAVE pursued cases in which their pollen blew onto an adjacent farmer's...

Montsano has repeatedly said it would not pursue lawsuits against this sort of infringement. This is another ploy to grandstand by the opposing groups. Out west here due to windy sites farmers plant pollen barriers to prevent cross contamination and frost. Quote:

I think the guy meant if you are a current smoker not actually smoking on the farm. Can the tabacco mosaic virus spread from smokers when not smoking?

I was told by an organic farmer that if you smoke you cannot come on the ground is that true and why?