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  1. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    The government has established limits on how much pesticide residue is permitted in food. Why would they do that, if there wasn't any? The problem with the the allowable amounts of pesticides allowed in foods, is that they can accumulate, and they can interact with each other, and with other...
  2. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay : j.luetkemeyer : I've been studying nutrition for 15 years and can vouch that an organic, whole food diet does prevent cancer. It may not be the organic food preventing it as much as it is a fact that the non-organic crap causes it. I'm not specifically talking about...
  3. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Quote: There is no SINGLE "real culprit". And for a change, I agree with what you've said here. The unthinking suburbanites with the pretty green lawns do immense damage, collectively. So do golf course owners, etc. But the MCF's aren't off the hook, just because there's someone else to blame...
  4. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Quote: That's great, I wonder if our local extension office offers anything like that. I'll have to check and see. It never occurred to me that they might. You have a valid point, in some places, it's losing battle. But at least if you don't add more, you can reduce exposure somewhat...
  5. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Oh, yeah. It's amazing what people expose themselves (and others) to, and don't even realize it.
  6. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay : Quote: Actually you did. Your "you" pronoun applies to a class: Modern Commercial Farmers. Since I am a member of that class you implied that I was dumping "tons of toxic crap" on my farm fields........ Jim No, that is NOT what I meant. There are plenty of people...
  7. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay : Quote: And just what are the TONS OF CRAP I spread on my corn, soybean, and hay fields? Please enlighten me. We sprayed 32 ounces of Round Up per acre on our soybeans. We applied a combination residual and foliar fertilizers, believe me if they were toxic my...
  8. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay : j.luetkemeyer : I guaranty the cost of being treated for cancer is much higher than the premium for organic. Why yes the cost of cancer is probably more than the premium on organic foods. However, the implication that organic food prevents cancer is ridiculous. We...
  9. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    I just grow my own, because (1) there's only a very small organic produce section at the local grocery (local, for me, is a 60 mile round trip) (2)it's expensive, I understand why, and I'm ok with the price they ask, I personally just don't have the money (3)there's no way I can "research the...
  10. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    In all the years I've kept chickens, I don't think they've ever come to harm from eating bugs, so I'm not gonna worry about that. The bugs are probably pretty safe for the birds. Out in the sticks where I am, we're mostly surrounded by wooded areas. They sure loved eating the cicadas, summer...
  11. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Serama, it sounds like the average person really has no way at all to find out what's in the feed they buy. You suggested buying the "cleanest" proper feed for whatever species/type being raised, but how is one to do that, if there's no way we can get test results, or get feed tested? Is there...
  12. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Quote: Seramas, did you send the samples to Abbott, or is there a list somewhere that can be accessed? If you sent them, what does it cost (approx.) to have a sample tested? I wouldn't mind getting some samples tested, if the cost isn't prohibitive. I think the feed I'm getting is pretty...
  13. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    Quote: If the difference in price was that small here, I'd buy organic feed. I can't even find organic feed here, I'd have to order it. I pay $7.75 average (it goes up and down throughout the year) per 50 lb of minimally processed layer ration, I add distiller's grain, ($6 per 50 lb) or...
  14. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    My free-range birds taste a lot better than store bought birds, and even when I raised a some CX's, the taste was better. Same with my turkeys. I said you may or may not taste the diff, because some say they can't. But I know I can.
  15. dancingbear

    Organic feed for Broilers

    If your feed and pasture contains pesticide and herbicide residue, so does the meat from the animals that eat that feed. Same thing with antibiotics. If the feed and pasture does not contain pesticide and herbicide residue, then the meat doesn't either. You may or may not be able to taste the...
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