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He told me they owned the red line and were adding the grey and black. I took that to mean he had the breeding stock. Regardless, I wish I could just but 2-3 of each and make my own and be finished with this retail nonsense.

Quote: Points made, but there are simply no 'breeds' of chicken. There are no breed standard registrations or genetic tests. There are NO breeds of chicken, period. It's very different compared with other livestock.

Quote: Correct, Freedom Rangers own the name. They were taking birds from Hubbard breeding stock and giving them a marketed name as "Freedom Rangers". So, if you get the identically bred bird from JM (or elsewhere) you are getting a Freedom Ranger in every sense, except the name.

Quote: No they are F1 and do not breed true. They are not expensive when you consider you don't have the 25% mortality compared to normal cornish crosses.

Quote: Ok, several points to make here: 1) Heying did not have all the breeding stock. The stock was spread out amongst several farms, including some amish who were raising them. 2) Everyone already knew that the Red Bro's were identical to the Freedom Rangers. Your story does not match...