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Interesting about the crate! I don't think I'm that desperate. I typically get up about that time anyway, but it would be nice if they would hold off for another hour or so. I do have neighbors, but they aren't very close, and the windows are facing our house, so I hope that they can't hear...

My roosters have been waking up at 4:30 crowing away....GRRR.... We have a couple of large windows in the coop. I'm wondering if I put something over them to make it dark in there, would that help?? Thanks!