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Quote: It wasn't, did someone say it was? Yes of course, repeatedly, that's why I *posted* that Why assume I must be speaking about *your* posts specifically? For instance "It's kinda like someone coming on the chicken board and declaring what is wrong with chickens and why they would...

Guys, the original post in this thread begins "I am currently in no position to get one but would like to someday. I can't find a whole lot of info on these guys and would like some input. I think they are absolutely beautiful and think one would be a great addition to a farm as a work/riding...

I have not seen people *bashing Vanners* on this thread. Nobody (that I have noticed - I will admit I have not reread every post on every page ) has said "ooooh, they are terrible horses, you don't wanna touch one with a ten foot pole, they are worthless and/or Evil Incarnate" All I've seen...

Really? Hm. Could be I suppose; but they had a bit of a fad already back in the, what, sometime in the 90s. I suppose maybe they could come back "bigger". I have seen some decent ones, but the only ones I've known and worked with, i.e. owned by normal average people, were either waaaaay to...

Yeah, about ten or twelve years ago a friend of mine bought a young horse in KY for, I forget, I believe it was $900... *dead ringer* for a lot of these upmarket Vanner things. I don't mean just 'heavy built pinto with long hair', I mean, as a horseman, ACTUAL dead ringer. Nine hundred dollars...

Yes, draft and draftX breeds generally do have very userfriendly temperaments and are easy to handle and start under saddle when they have been brought up right. Quote: What a great opportunity for you! Go for it, have fun! Tennessee Walkers are really neat horses too, some show people have...

Quote: That is because they were invented only in the mid 1990s, as a commercial breed anyhow. They do have a long history as a sort of landrace of crossbred draft-pony light-draft thingamajig, *not* restricted to Romany gypsies per se, been kicking around the less-well-off parts of the U.K...

Quote: Then what you want is either an old-style Morgan (type) or a smaller draft or draftX. (e.t.a. - or old-style ranch type horse, if you can find one). Most of these real drafty-shaped horses (like Vanners) are indeed pretty broad in the back... but you know what, how painful that is to...

I have not owned or worked with a Vanner specifically (they are of very recent origin as a commercial breed) but I have worked quite a lot with horses of all descriptions in many places for most of 45 years, and I would say this: Whoa, what a great marketing scheme this Gypsy Vanner thing is...