Great taste buds taste alike and all....
Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds
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yep he doesn't get too much black pepper. The other day he scrambled some eggs that were black and I was like why they black? And then I saw a wad of black and I said OHHHHHH it's black pepper. lolGreat taste buds taste alike and all....
Quote: This is wonderful!! We do this for lambs, never thought of it for chicks. Clever!
Haahaaa--leave it to you BEe to prove that the poison in pepper is not enough to kill you!! I love black pepper on most everything, espcially on a steak, and lots of sea salt too. yum.I LIVE on black pepper...go through bulk jars of it like water.I don't know that there is ever such a thing as too much black pepper in foods.
There's poison in pepper????
I'm thinking I'm immune by now, if so. Supposed to be good for preventing colon cancer or so THEY say, whoever THEY are.
Well, if it is good for preventing colon cancer, I'll be upping the ante. Sorry I'm blanking on the poison, rmember looooong ago my mother taking a class at the college of the atlantic and her talking about he pepper. And peach pits. I eat both.
Die cancer cells die!!!
THis I do know: GOMS
Greens
onions
mushrooms 10 g a day resulted in 30% decrease in breast cancer in one study. Eat up!
seeds and nuts.
I'm all for prevention!!
WHile in the car today picking up shavings, I listened to aNPR program on statins. Lots of discussing the meds and regulation and money making. Only ONE talked about prevention. Accoriding to one source I have read, the rate of heart attacks increased dramatically in the US about 30 years after the addition of coke a cola and refined flour to the diet. THen the snack food revolution. Eating refined carbs along with fats spells death. I eat the fats, quit the breads, flours, pastas, white rice, etc. in favor for better alternatives. Government is happy to dole out meds to treat but the discussion did roll around to only 30% were helped by the statins, what of the others. Again the doc in DC area talked about diet and exercise. We need to change what we eat to beat strokes, heart attackes, RA, gout, diabetes 2, etc. Lots of damage done by the time we are in our 40's---- but I"m trying to undo the damage . . . . .and help my kids eat a meat and veg diet. Always a battle, not with them , but the world forces around us. Wish I home schoooled.
THis I do know: GOMS
Greens
onions
mushrooms 10 g a day resulted in 30% decrease in breast cancer in one study. Eat up!
seeds and nuts.
I'm all for prevention!!
WHile in the car today picking up shavings, I listened to aNPR program on statins. Lots of discussing the meds and regulation and money making. Only ONE talked about prevention. Accoriding to one source I have read, the rate of heart attacks increased dramatically in the US about 30 years after the addition of coke a cola and refined flour to the diet. THen the snack food revolution. Eating refined carbs along with fats spells death. I eat the fats, quit the breads, flours, pastas, white rice, etc. in favor for better alternatives. Government is happy to dole out meds to treat but the discussion did roll around to only 30% were helped by the statins, what of the others. Again the doc in DC area talked about diet and exercise. We need to change what we eat to beat strokes, heart attackes, RA, gout, diabetes 2, etc. Lots of damage done by the time we are in our 40's---- but I"m trying to undo the damage . . . . .and help my kids eat a meat and veg diet. Always a battle, not with them , but the world forces around us. Wish I home schoooled.
So, I started thinking about what I use for my FF ( I have been using pellets or crumbles)and since my concoction ends up as mush anyway should I just go ahead and use mash? Would this be cheaper (while still giving the same nutritional results)? I would love to hear thoughts on this...
If mash is cheaper, go for it. THis week we are feeding crumbles dry as the pellets didn't come in at the feed store. Definitely very wasteful as dry. I need to shovel up the 1" waste on the ground they scratched out of the pan. Figure to make FF with it and feed it back to them. NO waste here.
Is you mash price better than the pellet price?? THe pellets go thru a heat process, so the more heat sensiitive vitamins should be higher in the mash . . . .in theory.
Mash should have the same nutrition as the pellets or crumbles..the only difference between all these feeds is how fine the grains are ground. The crumbles and pellets are steamed after a fine ground to get them into the shape/texture they are used, whereas mash is just ground rough and left in it's original ground texture...some things fine ground, some just cracked. It definitely makes a difference in the experience of FF, as the mash stirs up like a mortar or rough smashed potatoes whereas the other two types of feed will dissolve down into a peanut buttery or corn meal mush consistency. The mash is less sticky and easier to dish out, doesn't hold quite as much moisture and doesn't raise as high as the other feeds when fermenting and is easier to gauge how much water it will absorb so as to get the thickness of the mix right.
BUD, the unchicken, truly became an unchicken this morning, folks. You'd have been proud of him...he really had me going!
I had trussed his legs along with all the others the night before and laid him in a deep bed of leaves on the coop floor. This morning, no BUD. I looked everywhere and couldn't find BUD. Finally, about 10 yds away from the coop, I spotted him...he blends so perfectly with the leaves on the ground that he was well camouflaged. I thought he had truly just disappeared into the spirit realm, from whence he had come.
He also was very stubborn about leaving this world. He had to hop out of the pop door, move clear around the coop from out of a tunnel of hay bales and hop around the corner of the coop and then hit the straight away down a grade. BUD, you will be remembered.....
I was very impressed with how much meat he had put on and how tender that meat was. I think he would have finished out as a very large rooster if left to develop as I think he was probably about 3-4 mo. old and that large already. His testicles were not even bean size, so might have been even younger than I thought. I'll post later on his processed wt compared to the older hens processed today.
I was very impressed with how much meat he had put on and how tender that meat was. I think he would have finished out as a very large rooster if left to develop as I think he was probably about 3-4 mo. old and that large already. His testicles were not even bean size, so might have been even younger than I thought. I'll post later on his processed wt compared to the older hens processed today.
I haven't priced the mash vs. the pellets/crumbles yet, but I will def compare next time I need to buy feed...
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