Tolbunt color definition

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Helen in the Desert

Helen in the Desert

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I have read that Tolbunt should be a white spangle on the tip of a gold/red laced feather.
I have also heard that in Europe it is described as a white spangle tip with a black stripe and then the rest of the feather is gold/red. The speckled sussex has such a feather color, so what is the difference between the Speckled Sussex and the stripe form of Tolbunt?
What is the proposed standard for the Tolbunt color in the US?
I am working on Tulbunt in bantam cochins and would like to get it right and not waste a few years on something that is not correct.

Thanks all,

Helen
 
Hi
I'm attempting to create Tolbunt in Polish.
As far as I can discover the authority on this is the author of the following article.
http://www.chickencolours.com/TollbuntWyanEng.pdf

I've been following a discussion on this topic on this site and it would seem that the US standard that does not specify that the feathers be gold laced in addition to the other characteristics may be changed. (See Wal's reply.)

Good luck
Jill
 


Tolbunt on the left, Mille Fleur on the right.​

Tolbunt is gold lacing with mottling.

Each feather should be a deep golden color, "outlined" in black with a white tip.

If your goal is Tolbunt colored Cochins Helen I would suggest finding a Gold Laced roo with clear and crisp lacing, then breed him to Mottled Cochin pullets. From there select the offspring with the best lacing again and breed them together. In your third generation you should start seeing somewhat Tolbunt colored birds.

Mille Fleur and Spangling genetically is completely different than Tolbunt. Yes both varieties carry the mottling gene but that's about all they have in common.
 
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That pic is an excellent example of both Tolbunt the way I see it should be and Mille Fleur. What kind of birds are those? I have only ever seen Mille that good on the D'Uccle.

I put off for now making Tolbunt Cochins - instead tried to focus on getting the best Tolbunt color possible in a bantam sized bird. My F1s, are a cross of exceptional SQ Mille D'Uccle and exceptionally well laced Silver Sebrite (could not find any gold out in my corner of the world anywhere). I just got a really nice Mille Cochin roo (great pattern color, needs a little help on his tail as far as conformation goes) a couple of weeks ago, so I think I will breed some of my F1 girls to him and see what I get. I will also breed F1 to F1 as well. From what I have read - F1 should be bred back to Mille, but I think this may be in theory and not something anyone has actually tried yet.

I figure if I get really nice color on some birds it may be easier in the long run to breed back into the kind of bird (Cochin, D'Uccle) that I really want to have.

The reason I chose not to go with Cochin was the inconsistency of the mottle and Mille pattern - too much white cropping up. I have not seen this in the D'Uccle. Another experiment this season has been to breed the new Mille Cochin roo to the my Mille D'Uccle hens and see what the chicks turn out to be color wise. If the genetic is the same, they should all be a nice even Mille. If I get a mess, then it will be interesting to know that the genetic is not the same, and that would explain the pied look of the Cochins.

What was interesting to me too was that my F1s look just like the Greenfire Farm F1s on their Tolbunt Orp project.

Just to be clear, I don't show at this time, but would like to in the future. I DO understand about conformation standards and that they are specific to each variety of bird and that cross breeding totally messes the conformation up.
 
It's definitely a work in progress and I can't assert I've done it yet or am likely to succeed.
 

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