Salmon Faverolle pullet died, one more sick?

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Ok, going to outline this as quickly and as accurately as I can.

Three weeks ago, I seperated my three salmon faverolles (2 pullets, 1 cockerel) into a 10x10 breeding pen.
SF (salmon Faverolle) pullet 1 was hatched September, and just began laying about the time I moved them.
SF pullet 2 is her sister, so same age, but has not laid an egg.

A week ago, SF pullet 1 laid an egg on Tuesday, she was acting fine.
Wednesday morning, she seemed sedated, very calm. Her comb was a little purple in color. By the afternoon, she was walking like she was stiff. I would pick her up and put her down, and it would take her a minute to get her balance. She would stay in one place, unless she was getting water. The temperatures got down to 36. The next morning she was dead.
Today I noticed SF pullet 2 acting the same way as pullet 1 did the day before I found her dead.
Here are some things I checked on while she was alive, and postmortem
1. No diaherrea
2. No swollen crops
3. No mites - they where wormed three weeks ago
4. Eyes clear, pupils constrict and dilate
5. No bruising I or under skin that I saw.
6. Did not see any bloody feces in pen
7. Food has not changed. I go through 50lbs a week, did not see any mold. Same food fed to all the chickens.
8. Pullet 1 had purple comb, pullet two does not.. Only differences in symptoms
9. Both pullets are of good weight.
10. Breathing sounded normal
11. No chemicals or poisons set out recently.

I just gave SF pullet 2 an Epsom salt flush, hoping maybe she would survive the night. I am not optimistic. I guess I will send her off for a neoropsy if she passes.
Any ideas/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
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The only thing I can really add to this is when the comb is blue, I think thats a sign of either a breathing problem or a stroke. Strokes are unlikely since there are two doing it, so maybe a breathing issue. Is your other pullet breathing okay? Did you spray poison nearby, or anything airbourne like that?
 
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Thanks for the reply.
I have not used any poisons. I don't spray or anything.
I had a thought that maybe my SF rooster was being to rough with them? When I first saw pullet 1 walking stiff, that is what can to mind. I have my doubts thr both
Would have the same symptoms though.
 
Pullet 2 did not survive the night. So anther symptom would be about 24 hours since I noticed the first symptom to death.
It is very sad, these faverolles are becoming my favorite, running close to Cochins.
 
Anyone have any experience with Visceral Lymphomatosis?
After a ton of research, I think this might be what I am dealing with.
 
I have recently had a bout with Marek's disease, which in one form causes visceral tumors. The same bird was diagnosed with Lymphoid Leukosis. All of these viruses generally have the same symptoms when it is visceral, (with some differences of course, but they are all lymphomic). I have begun to research this at length and often the bird does not show any outward symptoms until they die, or very near the time of death. The tumor growth seems quite rapid and suddenly it just puts them into organ failure and they pass. Purple comb from pulmonary distress is not uncommon. This happened with my rooster and he has since tested positive for Marek's and LL. The tumors are all internal and growing on major organs. Can you preform a necropsy or have your bird sent for necropsy and testing? This will educate you as to what you are dealing with and hopefully allow you to plan for the rest of your flock. Depending on which virus it is, you can have a good chance of working to remove it from your flock, or not, and it will be important to know this if you ever want to bring more birds in or sell/breed responsibly.

You may want to call your state's agriculture extension and ask if they do testing. If not there are a few places you can ship the bird to and they will do testing, but this might be more expensive. If you wish to have testing done, it is best to store the deceased bird under refrigeration (don't freeze) and get it out for testing as soon as you are able.

If you are unable to afford testing, you can preform a gross necropsy yourself and look for tumors and masses growing on the major organs. This could at least start you on the path to answers.

For now you might want to consider that you have a virus in your flock and keep a closed flock until you can learn more.
 
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Just wanted to update:
I sent the second pullet off for testing. It was inconclusive. I have not had any deaths since (minus predatory attacks). I came to the conclusion that it must have been something they ate.
 

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