Living with MG

pysankigirl

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So long story short, I might have MG in my flock. some chickens I had in my quarantine pen had it (tested positive by the state) but only after I had relaxed my quarantine procedures and was about to put them in with my flock. so I am thinking that since my quarantine procedures were good coming OUT of the quarantine pen, they were non-existent going in and maybe my flock already had mg and gave it to the new chickens, or they don't and I am a hypochondriac, either way, I figure it is just best for me to close my flock in case.

I have done a lot of research (read obsessive reading) on the subject and have talked to some veterinarians and state health people. From what I can tell so far, the strain of MG I have doesn't really seem all that bad. Apart from perhaps a sneeze here or there, my chickens, if they have it, are completely asymptomatic, The ones in my quarantine pen that I gave to the state to test had a bit of rales for about a week but had already gone back to normal before I took them in. I thought the state was just going to think I was a hypochondriac chicken mom and was pretty shocked when the tests came back positive for mg. I have lost no chickens to it. I have lost many chickens to Coccidia before I gave up being organic and decided medicated chick food was better than being able to boast that I was bringing my chickens up organicly. people say that coccidia is everywhere and it is so deadly but no one is as afraid of it as they are of MG. and so far in my experience MG has no symptoms, and the one other person that I know that had it only had deaths in one breed. her others were fine,

There are a lot of sources that say that most backyard flocks have MG without knowing it, as do finches (among others) in the wild bird population. so it is impossible to eradicate, If that is the case, then why do some states advocate culling the entire backyard flock instead of breeding for resistance. I am confused,

I am lucky in that my state does not. or I don't live close enough to the commercial growers for them to care,

So I am planning on living with my MG positive flock because it is less painful to close my flock than it is to kill chickens that seem completely healthy for no reason. But I would love to hear from other people who have dealt with it so that maybe I can understand why the health department cares about this disease at all. Are there other strains that are more scarey? are the commercial layers and broilers more susceptible to it than heritage breeds? how often have people actually lost a chicken to MG?

Thanks for your input on this!!! ( in advance)
 
If people think culling is the only option, then I want to know why. I want a real reason I can understand and so far with there being no symptoms and with all the people out there who supposedly have it without knowing it, being asymptomatic must be fairly normal for this disease. So why is it worse than Coccidia? Coccidia kills. Why not breed for resistance?

I honestly don't need to medicate them at all currently. they are asymptomatic, happy chickens. I found this out 6 months ago and they have been healthy the whole time, I hear about one sneeze a week. seriously don't know if they just breathed in a mote of dust from the feed,

I wish I could find someone willing to come out and take blood samples. so far no luck with that.
 
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So is there anyone out there that has some information on this that might sway me one way or the other on this topic? I really do want to know why MG is so feared. are there much worse varieties that actually have symptoms?
 
With how deadly Coccidia is I am amazed at how paranoid people are of MG. MG in most cases doesn’t cause death or even symptoms unless combined with some other disease. I am trying to figure out if my experience with it is normal…I have no symptoms at all in my flock. I have lost birds to Coccidia but not a single one to MG. My birds are happy and seemingly absolutely healthy.

I wish I could get someone out to do a blood test. It might be that I don’t even have MG. I keep thinking there has to be something more to it than what I have experienced for people to be so paranoid about it. Please...people, let me know about your experiences with it if nothing else. I need to know if what I am experienceing is normal or not. it could be that the two birds in My quarantine pen already had it and didn't give it to my flock. Maybe the complete lack of symptoms is because I don't actually have MG. I need to know what others have experienced.
 
coccidia is a protoaze infection what means the bird get diarrhea and also damage to the liver, you get different protoaze infections for example blackhead and malaria in humans etc. What is dangerous about protoaze infections in diarrhea(secondary infections also occurred in dehydration process which is also deadly) birds stop eating and needs to fed or it will die dehydration. What make MG dangerous is the second infections called E Coli which kill the birds it is this infection which cause fever s which is deadly. Mg birds is carriers for life and is transmiited thru eggs and sperms from male to female
 
Signs of MG:

Signs


  • Coughing.
  • Nasal and ocular discharge.
  • Poor productivity.
  • Slow growth.
  • Leg problems.
  • Stunting.
  • Inappetance.
  • Reduced hatchability and chick viability.
  • Occasional encephalopathy and abnormal feathers.


If you put a new bird with an MG infected flock, that new bird should start showing some of the symptoms above. Have your flock tested and stop living with the MG possibility. I don't know where the blood test is coming from. My tester did a throat swap for MG. I do believe mortality is higher in younger birds then it is in adults. Talk to HOF. I believe she just culled her whole flock last year due to MG. IMO (and this is just my opinion) culling is the only option and I would have done it if my flock tested positive. I would rather be a part of the solution and not part of the problem.
 
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I have hatched out new chicks that are now 13-ish weeks old and acquired a couple of chicks that I have had for at least a month and have not had any of these symptoms.

I think some places do throat swabs and some do blood tests. I spoke to our testing lab here today and they do blood testing. I am ordering the syringes and tubes tonight.
 

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