Genetics/sex link question

donrae

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Okay, for those of you who don't like to read a lot, short story is this....I bred this rooser


to the hen behind him, here's a better pic


and got these chicks



and am hoping I can sex them. If you can do that from the pics, great!

Here's more info

The rooster is (obviously) a mixed breed. His mother was a hatchery Welsummer, his father was a home hatched bsl rooster (Rocky). Rocky's father was a rooster of unknown parentage, he was a firey orange color, slight Colombian markings, more like smutty colored than black, with white legs and straight comb. My best guess was buff Orp x New Hampshire, something like that. Mother was hatchery barred Rock. So that gives you background on rooster's genetics.

The hen is also a mix. Very likely the same father as the rooster, or possibly a pure barred Rock rooster. Mother was a hatchery silver laced Wyandotte.

Since the hen carries barring, I was thinking the chicks would be able to be sexed based on a headspot, but I forgot about needing the down color to see the spot correctly
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In the first pic, I'm thinking male on the left, female on the right, with the muddy area on the left chicks's head showing future barring. Is that correct? And the nice sharp markings on the other chick means female?

I was also wondering if there's a red sex linkage at play here. Gold rooster, silver hen, and those colors would carry over to what gender I'm hoping the chicks are.

Looking forward to input!
 
Thank you! I sold the suspected male, the silver chick, today. The gold chick actually hatched under a broody hen, so she'll stay at least as long as momma's interested in being a momma.
 
If I ran that calculator right then the chick on the left (first pic) is the male and would have a head spot (his is red).

Did all the chicks look somewhat the same?
 
Thank you Chris! That's what I was thinking also, I wasn't sure if the spot could be a different color, or just lack the "crispness" of the markings on the goldish bird.

Those were the only two chicks that I've hatched from this cross. The rooster is in a breeding pen with some barred Rock hens, and this mixed breed hen. So, all the others from him have been classic black sex links, easy to id right off.
 
No sexlinks here, and thats because the Male you have there is a "Golden" S/s+ rooster, he carries both Silver S and gold s+.. you can be 100% sure that the gold chick is a female, but the silver chick has 50% chance at being a silver pullet(from S gene from Barred rock grand mother) or a S/s+ male..


at least you know any gold chick from such cross is 100% female... not so much the silverish chicks as silver is completely dominant on chicks so S/s+ males and S/- females have the same shade of tone
 
No sexlinks here, and thats because the Male you have there is a "Golden" S/s+ rooster, he carries both Silver S and gold s+.. you can be 100% sure that the gold chick is a female, but the silver chick has 50% chance at being a silver pullet(from S gene from Barred rock grand mother) or a S/s+ male..


at least you know any gold chick from such cross is 100% female... not so much the silverish chicks as silver is completely dominant on chicks so S/s+ males and S/- females have the same shade of tone
Thanks so much! I sold the silver chicks as a gamble on gender, the buyer was fine with that.

How about the barring on the hen? Does that give any indication on gender of chicks? I've wondered if they'll be able to be sexed the same as something like a Rhodebar, by crispness of markings and possibly a head spot. Am I way off base?
 
Thanks so much! I sold the silver chicks as a gamble on gender, the buyer was fine with that.

How about the barring on the hen? Does that give any indication on gender of chicks? I've wondered if they'll be able to be sexed the same as something like a Rhodebar, by crispness of markings and possibly a head spot. Am I way off base?
Single barring on wildtype or wildtype looking chicks is not 100% accurate to sex, as an example e+/eWh B/b+ males from a Rhodbar x RIR have not been able to produce sexable chicks at this stage, I dont kow if the hen you cross your rooster is pure for e+ or is just eb
 

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