2 harems 1 rooster?

Is there a reason behind this?

Is it OK for him to mix with both lots of chickens when they're free ranging
There are many reasons behind this. One reason that is that I've looked after Ex Battery hens in an otherwise mixed group.

What some people want chickens to behave like because they added chickens like getting a bag of sweets from a pick and mix store.
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What chickens are really like.
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Chickens are tribal creatures. They are not flock creatures. Chicken will identify with their own breed, own family, or whatever features another breed has that is closest to their features.
There are certain mixes that should be avoided; Silkies, Polish and heavily crested breeds mixed with standard full sized breeds. Doubtless some people will say this is nonsense. There are a couple of long running threads here where this mix has been forced upon both types and if you were to read the threads you would see it's been a disaster from the outset. Unfortunately people have an uncanny ability to ignore the probemls their lack of understanding has brought about.

Common view here on BYC is that a rooster needs ten hens to avoid overmating etc. The truth is a rooster will have two or three favourite hens and his attentions in both mating and care will be directed at his favourites. In a confined setting this isn't much of a problem; free ranging it can prove very costly because a rooster cannot provide the duties expected of him for more than three or four hens.
This is in part because his ancestors had small tribes comprising one or two females and their offspring for a period of time. No jungle fowl rooster has a harem.

Unfortunately no evidence or experience outweighs what people want whether it's good for the chickens or not.

You have possibly the worst combintaion and you are trying to introduce a new rooster (you don't mention the breed) into a unstable group. You have it seems already found out that the red sex links are not going to mix well with your Silkie and Sussex.
 
There are many reasons behind this. One reason that is that I've looked after Ex Battery hens in an otherwise mixed group.

What some people want chickens to behave like because they added chickens like getting a bag of sweets from a pick and mix store.
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Chickens are tribal creatures. They are not flock creatures. Chicken will identify with their own breed, own family, or whatever features another breed has that is closest to their features.
There are certain mixes that should be avoided; Silkies, Polish and heavily crested breeds mixed with standard full sized breeds. Doubtless some people will say this is nonsense. There are a couple of long running threads here where this mix has been forced upon both types and if you were to read the threads you would see it's been a disaster from the outset. Unfortunately people have an uncanny ability to ignore the probemls their lack of understanding has brought about.

Common view here on BYC is that a rooster needs ten hens to avoid overmating etc. The truth is a rooster will have two or three favourite hens and his attentions in both mating and care will be directed at his favourites. In a confined setting this isn't much of a problem; free ranging it can prove very costly because a rooster cannot provide the duties expected of him for more than three or four hens.
This is in part because his ancestors had small tribes comprising one or two females and their offspring for a period of time. No jungle fowl rooster has a harem.

Unfortunately no evidence or experience outweighs what people want whether it's good for the chickens or not.

You have possibly the worst combintaion and you are trying to introduce a new rooster (you don't mention the breed) into a unstable group. You have it seems already found out that the red sex links are not going to mix well with your Silkie and Sussex.
The groups aren't unstable as they're housed separately and both groups have a great deal of space

We have no intention to breed, not because of our choice of birds, we just don't want babies and everything that entails (plus lots of hens needing good rehomes, so I adopt rather than breed)

We only free range the girls when they can all be monitored (lots of aerial and ground predators in northern France) And haven't had any issues when the 2 groups are out and about as they keep themselves separate.

We got the rooster on recommendation from a local poultry farmer who said it would reduce the internal squabbling of our rescue red hens

Hes across maran/sussex
We were recommended those breeds due to having good temperament
 
How old are your Silkie and Sussex? To me it sounds like they may be fairly young. And it sounds like your red hens may be commercial Red Sex Linked egg-laying hybrids, probably 2 or 3 years old. Not that it matters other than age (they are mature). Some people get so hung up on breed and such they forget that chickens are chickens. Until they mature enough to force their way into the pecking order immature pullets are often terrified of mature hens. If they invade the personal space of mature hens they are likely to get pecked so they keep a safe distance. As long as the chicks don't invade the personal space most adults will not go out of their way to attack them. Some might but most will not. If you crowed them into a small space where the chicks can't keep a safe distance bad things are much more likely to happen.

As long as no one is getting hurt I don't see any problems free ranging them at the same time. That's how I integrate my chicks into the main flock. Mine sleep separately at night but after a certain age roam together (but widely separated) during the day. The chicks keep that separation themselves, they don't need any help from me as long as they have the room they need.

How old is your "rooster"? Is he mature or still a cockerel? That's going to define a lot on how he interacts with your mature hens. If he is mature and you turn him loose with the flock after quarantine he should mate one or two of the hens and they are then his flock. If the other two are still immature he will probably leave them alone, he should only be interested in mating mature hens. If he is still immature a whole lot of different things could possibly happen when you release him from quarantine.

I think he will determine where he stays, day and night. You can physically move him from one coop to the other if you want but I don't know why you would do that. You got him to be the flock master for your red rescue hens. Let him.

I don't know what will happen with your Silkie or Sussex and the reds. There are plenty of stories on this forum where there were problems with Silkies or other decorative breeds in a flock but there are also plenty of stories where they got along great. There are plenty of stories where chickens of the same breed had problems. My suggestion is to give them flexibility and let them work it out on their terms. Do not force them to share tight quarters, daytime or at night. As long as no one is getting injured let chicken be chickens and let them figure it out.
 
How old are your Silkie and Sussex? To me it sounds like they may be fairly young. And it sounds like your red hens may be commercial Red Sex Linked egg-laying hybrids, probably 2 or 3 years old. Not that it matters other than age (they are mature). Some people get so hung up on breed and such they forget that chickens are chickens. Until they mature enough to force their way into the pecking order immature pullets are often terrified of mature hens. If they invade the personal space of mature hens they are likely to get pecked so they keep a safe distance. As long as the chicks don't invade the personal space most adults will not go out of their way to attack them. Some might but most will not. If you crowed them into a small space where the chicks can't keep a safe distance bad things are much more likely to happen.

As long as no one is getting hurt I don't see any problems free ranging them at the same time. That's how I integrate my chicks into the main flock. Mine sleep separately at night but after a certain age roam together (but widely separated) during the day. The chicks keep that separation themselves, they don't need any help from me as long as they have the room they need.

How old is your "rooster"? Is he mature or still a cockerel? That's going to define a lot on how he interacts with your mature hens. If he is mature and you turn him loose with the flock after quarantine he should mate one or two of the hens and they are then his flock. If the other two are still immature he will probably leave them alone, he should only be interested in mating mature hens. If he is still immature a whole lot of different things could possibly happen when you release him from quarantine.

I think he will determine where he stays, day and night. You can physically move him from one coop to the other if you want but I don't know why you would do that. You got him to be the flock master for your red rescue hens. Let him.

I don't know what will happen with your Silkie or Sussex and the reds. There are plenty of stories on this forum where there were problems with Silkies or other decorative breeds in a flock but there are also plenty of stories where they got along great. There are plenty of stories where chickens of the same breed had problems. My suggestion is to give them flexibility and let them work it out on their terms. Do not force them to share tight quarters, daytime or at night. As long as no one is getting injured let chicken be chickens and let them figure it out.
Thank you
All of our girls are roughly 3 years old (Inc silkie and sussex)
All are rescued
The boy we're told is a year
He is a big boy! (Very handsome too)


There's no tight space.
The 9 hens live in a purpose built house
3m x 3m internal with 6 nesting boxes to choose from
3 long roost bars at differing heights
The house is surrounded by a secure run 1m width and leads into a second secure (covered) outdoor space 5m x 3m
Then when they free range we have a few acres
 
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So based on everyone's feedback, I'll house him with the reds

He's in quarantine a week

Then I'll have him alongside the reds for a week so they closely see each other and can chat between a fence

Then I'll add him to one of their roost bars when reds asleep (so when they all wake he's there)

Will keep you posted with progress
 
So, we took time. Introduced them through the fence for a few days after his quarantine
I put him on roost bar in their house last night when all été sleepy, and all are getting on swimmingly

Just gave them all a dangling lettuce which they shared happily
 

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