Hidden genes frustrate me, especially those Pied, W/E and White genes, lol. Glad to know I'm not the only person they are hiding fromPeeps, I have a 100% looking barred winged IB,,his mother was an IB Black Shoulder split to Charcoal,,and his father was a Charcoal pied ,,2 copies of w/e,,he does not show a throat patch,or any white feathers on him,just looks 100% barred wing ib,,,good thing for wingbanding and accurate records,or he would have went bye-bye yesterday

I agree, wingbanding and accurate records are a must, especially if you are breeding for certain colors and patterns... but unfortunately for me I'm starting with 4 birds that have unknown/uncertain backgrounds and are not banded in any way. Makes me wonder what else they are hiding from me, lol. After talking to the breeder of my Peacock (his breeding records were lost in a PC crash) we're pretty sure he's donating the copy of W/E, as well as a Pied gene... but as for which of my 3 Hens is donating the other Pied gene to the mix (which resulted in producing the Dark Pied chicks) is a complete unknown

I do wingband my chicks, but my Hens all share the same nesting barrel, so I never know who has laid which eggs unless I am right there when they actually lay. And of course, every time so far that I have marked the eggs and hatched a chick from them I ended up with normal looking IB chicks, lol. With only a certain % of the eggs laid by the Hen (or Hens) carrying the other copy of Pied factored in, that is definitely not helping me narrow anything down either

I was thinking about trying the food coloring drops in the vent trick that many use on Chicken Hens, but I haven't bothered trying that yet. I would most likely end up leaving the coop wearing rainbow colors all over me after attempting it, lol. I remember reading several of Deerman's posts where he talked about crating up certain Hens every evening so he knew which egg came from which Hen... so I may go that route and see if it will help me get a little further with this hidden gene mystery. Otherwise, I'll have to start looking for a couple of Whites, and build more pens and go the test breeding route... ugh
