~3 week old Araucana/EE w/ possible coccidiosis **UPDATE** bad news.

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I'm raising chicks for the first time, I have 14 total - 10 of various breeds that I purchased about 3 weeks ago and 4 "Araucanas" (might be EEs) that I purchased from the same feed store about 2 weeks ago. All have been living in a brooder together on clean pine shavings, I replace the bedding on a daily basis (sometimes more often) as they really have a knack for emptying out their waterer.

As of yesterday afternoon they all seemed to be thriving, but when I got home around 6 pm I noticed that one of the EEs was huddling at the edge of the brooder instead of running around with the others when I gave them treats (have been giving them bits of salad and grass from outside, very small pieces of assorted grains and occasionally some plain yogurt, I provide them some small grit also). I kept checking on her and she didn't perk up at all, I also noticed for the first time that she is considerably smaller now than the other 3 EEs that are the same age - they appear to have grown a lot more in the last couple days, her feather development seems to be lagging behind now too. She doesn't appear to have any injuries, and I don't feel a full crop or anything (though I am no expert!).

I isolated her last night because she was trying to nestle under the bigger chicks and was getting run over, after reading a lot of the posts on this forum I'm pretty sure she's got coccidiosis - she is very lethargic, is huddling and making a what I'd describe as a shivery, trilling chirp. She doesn't try to run when I pick her up, her legs seem weak and she's had some watery stools (I have not seen any bloody stools from her or the others). I picked up some 9.6% Corid liquid this morning and put 10cc in a gallon of water, I've been giving her a few drops of this through a straw every 20 min or so and also used it to make a mash of her usual feed (Start & Grow Medicated). If put in front of the mash and left undisturbed she will eat a little then doze off, so I'm hopeful that she's at least getting some nutrition and enough medicine to get the cocci under control, if that's what's causing this. She ate a little plain yogurt last night when I put it up to her beak, but I've now read that may make the problem worse so I have been offering her only medicated water, mash and dry crumbles.

If it is cocci, do you think I caught it early enough for her to survive? She doesn't seem any worse off than yesterday, but she doesn't seem any better either. Is there anything else you would do to make her more comfortable or help her fight the infection? Does this seem like it might be anything other than cocci?

I have also started giving the medicated water to the other 13 ladies in the brooder, although they all seem very robust and active - from what I've read Corid is relatively safe and I'd rather not wait until symptoms start developing, because I'm sure they have been exposed. I have also stopped all treats and am restricting them to water and medicated crumbles. I also replaced all the bedding in the brooder after isolating the little EE. Does this sound reasonable? Is there anything else I should do to prevent the rest of them from getting sick?

Sorry to bombard you all with questions - thanks for your help, and for all the wonderful information already on this forum. I've been lurking here for weeks.
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Sara

***UPDATE*** I was hopeful that she would pull through after she ate yesterday, but she seemed to really decline during the evening and was totally unresponsive unless we disturbed her, even then she wouldn't open her eyes. She passed away overnight. So sad to have lost this little one, she was so sweet and would have been a beautiful hen. If any of you have any ideas of what this could have been please share them, I want to make sure my other 13 girls are protected if it's something they could catch. I'm still assuming cocci (though no bloody poop) and giving 2 tsp per gallon 9.6% Corid to all the chicks in their water, hope this is helping them and not hurting.
 
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I meant to add also that her little vent looks to be completely clean, no sign of blood or poop.

I just checked on her again and she was sleeping, but when I moved her close to the mash she started eating again. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but she seems to be a little stronger and more enthusiastic about food than she was this morning. Fingers crossed!
 
IMO your doing a good job. I just lost a chick that I thought was getting better though to cocci and playing the 'wait and see' with another so just keep in mind it may still not make it.
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It makes a full recovery. Haven't heard that about the yogurt.

ETA: You said no blood in the poop right? Was the poop odd in any way?
 
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Thanks for the replies, guys!

Jenna- definitely have not noticed any bloody poop at all, from her or the other girls. She definitely has very runny stools and not a lot of fecal matter in them - when she poops it's mainly white urea with a little runny brown matter, she's not been eating a whole lot so there's not much volume.

Let me know if you think of anything else I can try in addition to the Corid. Thanks again!

Sara
 
the description of your sick chick sounds a lot like the problem I am having. It started with one chick with the same symptoms as yours but I didn't know enough to isolate it.( I am brand new at this also ). I have had to remove five so far and I know at least two more are sick.
I was looking on line about chicken diseases and I came across what I thought was a perfect match, it's called avian encephalomylitis.
It is Passed from the mother in the egg and and can then spread to other chicks. Like I said I am new to chickens but I thought you could check it out.
 
Birder, thanks for the tip and sorry to hear you've got sick chicks too.
I looked at the symptoms of AE and am hoping that's not what mine had, I guess I'll just have to wait and see how the other chicks do - right now they seem fine, knock on wood.

Could you tell me a little more about how the symptoms progressed in your chicks? Were the tremors really obvious? And were they making any strange noises?
Hope that the rest of your chicks are okay!

Sara
 
I am so sorry for your loss.
I am new to this as well, so mean this as a question, not a fact...
I thought I had read somewhere that if you are feeding medicated feed you should not give any other medicine?

Does anyone know what the rules for this are?

Again, very sorry that you lost a baby
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Sara.

The first chick affected was very listless a few days after I got them and after a few more days started to lay on her side with her feet sticking out. I was reluctant to remove her and now I really regret it. The next bird that was obvious would sit on it's haunches and do this weird squawk while turning it's head back and forth. Since then others have done the squawk but the main symptoms are being very lethargic, not eating much and not growing or thriving. While the others run around for treats etc. the sick ones just sit there.

It's all very disturbing for my first time with chickens but I'm going to hang in there. You were very wise to separate the sick one right off. Next time I will know better. I started with 26 chicks and am down to 20. BR and NHR have fared well, BO were hit hard.

I hope you have better luck.

Peter
 
Peter,
Hope that your little ones are doing ok, the rest of mine seem to be fine (knock on wood!), they've had the 5 day treatment of Corid and they all seem to be doing well. My sick one didn't really seem to have any neurological problems or trouble with coordination, though it's possible I just didn't know what to look for (I didn't hold her upside down or anything).


Andrea,
I hadn't heard that, hope I didn't OD the little guys! They seem to be ok, anyway...

Thanks guys for all the support and feedback - hope that all your little chicks are thriving!!

Sara
 

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