7 wk old lethargic x 2 wks & losing weight

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by MamiPollo, May 23, 2011.

  1. MamiPollo

    MamiPollo Chillin' With My Peeps

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    1) What type of bird , age and weight.

    female australorp, age 7 weeks, weight unknown.... 1 lb or less I guess. Much, much smaller than my 7 week or my 5 week australorp.

    2) What is the behavior, exactly.

    Standing around puffed up with her head pulled back and resting between her shoulders. For about one week she only stood up, but then she began moving around more and would lie down. I thought she was feeling better, but today she is much worse again. She does eat and drink water. She is not an adventurous eater and not interested in any treats, such as scrambled eggs or strawberry tops that the other girls go crazy for. She will look at them, and even follow another bird who is running with a treat, but she will not eat any, or she will taste it and then go get the Start & Grow instead.

    I isolated her in the daytime for about a week and she seemed to improve. She would cry when the other chicks would leave the brooder box in the morning, but she could not fly out. She would try to fly and crash into the side of the box.

    Today she was drinking water & other chicks came to the waterer. One stepped on her and she fell and could not get up. At that point I put her back into the brooder box. She has been eating and drinking in there, and apparently sleeping. She looks like she is sleeping. She is not crying for her sisters, which is very unusual for her. Up until now she has cried and cried when separated from them.


    3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

    Two weeks. I first noticed this behavior on Tuesday, 2 weeks ago tomorrow.


    4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?

    No. The day before this chick, Maud, began this behavior, my araucana, Hazel, was puffed up and pulling her head back in the same way. But the next day Hazel was fine and then Maud started doing it also. I thought since Hazel did this for a few hours that Maud would also improve, but she did not.

    5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.

    No, not at all.

    6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.

    I have no idea. They had been out in the tractor for a few hours on Saturday or Sunday afternoon.

    I ran out of wood shavings when I cleaned their brooder box, so I put in some straw that I had. They had started out on this straw and had not had any problems, so I did not anticipate it making any of them sick.


    7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.

    She is eating Start & Grow and drinking city water. However, I picked her up today and felt her all over. She feels very bony. She has lost weight since last weekend when I did this. Her crop is swollen and hard. I tried massaging it gently and she screamed and cried, so I stopped.



    8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.

    The poop looks normal. I do not see anything unusual about her poop.


    9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?

    I have tried isolating her from the other chicks. She cries for them and seems stressed. I let them sleep together at night for warmth. After about a week of this, she was much stronger, less puffy and more active, so I put them back together 3 or 4 days ago in the daytime as well. She is not as active as the other chicks, but she likes to walk around and scratch for food on the floor, and she seems liked by the other chicks. She has a friend. Another Australorp, Alma, who is 2nd in command seems very fond of her and will not follow the other chicks back into the brooder if Maud cannot come. Alma will sit on the side of the tub where she can see both Maud and the other hens, as if she refuses to abandon Maud. She also often stands beside her with their sides touching, or snuggles next to her to sleep. Very sweet. Sorry for the ramble.

    10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

    I do not see taking a chicken to the vet. I don't have the finances for that. I am a single mom on a limited income.

    If I knew the vet had some treatment that would definately be effective I might feel differently. My experience with birds tells me there is not much you can do if they are going to get sick and die, whether or not a vet is involved.


    11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.

    Will try to get one, but I don't know if it will tell you much. Just picture a puffed up black chicken who is not growing. :-(


    12) Describe the housing/bedding in use

    These chicks have been in my bathroom since I brought them home at approx. age 2 days. The brooder box is in the bathtub, and I pull the sliding shower doors almost closed to isolate Maud in there in the daytime. The other chicks have had the run of the bathroom (disgusting, I know, but you do what you gotta do when your chicken tractor plans fall through).

    I have pine shavings in the brooder box, which is a large Rubbermaid tote. I put a cottage cheese container of water in with Maud and a small container of Start & Grow. I was trying treats in there for her, but she was not interested in them so I stopped doing that. She likes the Start & Grow dry or mixed with a little water.

    If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. I thought she was doing better, but today I am concerned again that she is not going to make it.

    Can this chick be saved?
     
  2. MamiPollo

    MamiPollo Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Someone posted a link to a video on another thread that could almost be my chicken, Maud. She behaves and looks the same as this bird, only younger.





    Well, today she is standing still and seems weak. But the past few days she had been pretty active and running around in the bathroom with the other chicks, behaving pretty normally. Just staying in this strange posture.
     
  3. MamiPollo

    MamiPollo Chillin' With My Peeps

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    My sweet little Maud died today.

    She lived half her life with this disease, whatever it was. She stopped growing at 4 weeks and died at age 9.5 weeks. She continued to have a good appetite until the end and I do not know what killed her.

    She loved yogurt best of all and had become very tame. I brought her into the house the last couple of days, because she was so weak the other girls would knock her down and walk on her and she could not defend herself. She wanted to be right between my feet and would try to follow me around.

    She was a sweet little thing and I will miss her.
     
  4. secuono

    secuono Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 29, 2010
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    I have the same issue. Random chicks of all ages and juvies all suddenly start to loose weight and eventually pass. I have two right now, older EE and a young RIR. The EE may not make it through the night. But I fed both of them chick starter, B12 liquid and yogurt. We'll see if either make it. I have no idea what it is they randomly catch. Lets just hope it stops for you and for the rest of us. [​IMG]
     
  5. secuono

    secuono Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 29, 2010
    Virginia
    Just lost the EE a few minutes ago...
     
  6. teach1rusl

    teach1rusl Love My Chickens

    Sorry to hear that Kath...but at least she had a good life for many weeks. Sorry about yours too Secuono... [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  7. MamiPollo

    MamiPollo Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am sorry about your EE, Secuono. We get so attached to the ones we nurse and nurse. I do anyway. I became quite fond of Maud. She was sweet like a quiet little puppy or newborn kitten. She was just needy and trusting and would follow me around and eat out of my hand. She had been sleeping in my bedroom and I keep finding myself lookng for her.
     
  8. chickenfeverforever

    chickenfeverforever Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Doesnt look like you are getting much help....I am in the same boat. I lost a 12 week old Polish hen last week. She to also stopped growing and was much smaller then all the other birds. At the very end she was so light, I could hold her with my pinky finger. Everyone else int he group is fine so I have no idea what she died from. I posted on here asking for help but no one replied. Well today while I was feeding my Silkies in my brooder in my sunroom, I noticed a white Silkie that was just standing there. I picked her up and again she literally weighed nothing. She would start to fall alseepin my hands and when I put her down, She just stands there with her wings hanging low with her head tucked in to her chest. I do not think she will make it threw the night. There are 10 other silkies in the brooder with her, All are fine and eating and drinking. Full of energy. I wish I knew what was causing them symptoms in our baby chicks are what is causing them to stop growing and lose weight.
     
  9. chickenfeverforever

    chickenfeverforever Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well when I was done typing I went to check on my little white Silkie and she had passed away. It must have been a quick death because I was just out there holding her 30 mins ago. Its the way they die to the weirds me out. With their neck bent all the way back. I knew she was going to die, but I had no idea it would be that soon. She was so sweet and cute.
     

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