9 year old hen with pale comb, almost no tail feathers, now moving slow and less interested in food/treats

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Goldie is 9 years old and has always had a strong personality. We've recently had two stressors-- adding young pullets to what had been a flock of just Goldie and her BFF (also 9); and beastly hot weather.

At first, when her comb became pale, I attributed it to heat stress. They have shade all day, and ample water including water that has constantly melting ice to keep it cool. On the worst days there were icy pans of water to stand in and frozen fruit treats. At night there are fans in the coop. Still, pretty beastly.

A couple weeks later, I noticed that she'd sort of stay away from the others. Sometimes she was laying (upright) but in a different area from the rest and sometimes just wandering around. Her BFF on the other hand has bonded with the new girls and is thriving. Then Goldie went from being the FIRST to come for treats or feed, to coming slower... and the last 2-3 days she was not interested in grapes which are a favorite. Still each morning she looked pretty good, and would eat special toppings (worms, seeds, nuts) as well as her feed. She would be a bit droopy by late afternoon. She seems to have lost all but 2 tail feathers which makes me think molting but the rest of her feather look normal. They all eat Klambach 18% Chick Starter reserve. They tend to pick out the big bits and leave crumble. I usually top with some worms/grubs and sunflower seeds.

The last two mornings, and again tonight I got her to eat a bit of scrambled egg. But tonight I had to give it to her on the roost and sort of chase the others away. For about 10 days, she seems to hide her head and neck under her BFF on the roost. This morning all the others were on the floor-- Goldie still on the roost but she did jump right down when I opened the door. The poop under her spot on the roost looks fine.

She feels like she may have lost a little weight but her weight is still good because she's a big heavy hen. Her comb looks sad, her expression is sort of dull. She's normally a BIG personality. I checked her butt, and it's reasonably clean, not caked with poop. She had a bath last week because she was poopy, and I saw no signs of parasites. She's eating, just not as food oriented as normal.

Today she was upright all day, but moving almost in slow motion like she was very tired. She almost lost her balance coming up the ramp to the coop and had to use a wing for a second. High temps the last few days are <90, lows overnight about 70. So it's not beastly. We've had some rain/storms so it's humid but a couple weeks ago it was 105 heat index day after day, so this is not bad. I was giving electrolyte/vitamin water but when temps moderated I switched to clear water.

She does not seem sick enough to cage and bring away from the others. But she's not right either so maybe I should? I'm encouraged that I'm getting her to eat scrambled egg and that she recovers somewhat overnight.

Nutridrench? vitamin B? back to electrolytes? I figure this is probably heat stress/old age/molting though it does seem to be just a partial molt? Or, it could be she's succumbing to old age but I sure hope not, she's pretty special to me.

I've attached pictures-- she does not look pathetic except for her scant tail feathers and that comb. It's much paler during the day, and regains some pinkness at night. These were taken after she'd been asleep on the roost for a couple hours. Mostly normal poops, but she did let go one really wet squirt while I was there. In pictures with TWO of them she's the darker hen.

Thoughts?

@Wyorp Rock, @Eggcessive @azygous in case any of you are around
 

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Goldie is 9 years old and has always had a strong personality. We've recently had two stressors-- adding young pullets to what had been a flock of just Goldie and her BFF (also 9); and beastly hot weather.

At first, when her comb became pale, I attributed it to heat stress. They have shade all day, and ample water including water that has constantly melting ice to keep it cool. On the worst days there were icy pans of water to stand in and frozen fruit treats. At night there are fans in the coop. Still, pretty beastly.

A couple weeks later, I noticed that she'd sort of stay away from the others. Sometimes she was laying (upright) but in a different area from the rest and sometimes just wandering around. Her BFF on the other hand has bonded with the new girls and is thriving. Then Goldie went from being the FIRST to come for treats or feed, to coming slower... and the last 2-3 days she was not interested in grapes which are a favorite. Still each morning she looked pretty good, and would eat special toppings (worms, seeds, nuts) as well as her feed. She would be a bit droopy by late afternoon. She seems to have lost all but 2 tail feathers which makes me think molting but the rest of her feather look normal. They all eat Klambach 18% Chick Starter reserve. They tend to pick out the big bits and leave crumble. I usually top with some worms/grubs and sunflower seeds.

The last two mornings, and again tonight I got her to eat a bit of scrambled egg. But tonight I had to give it to her on the roost and sort of chase the others away. For about 10 days, she seems to hide her head and neck under her BFF on the roost. This morning all the others were on the floor-- Goldie still on the roost but she did jump right down when I opened the door. The poop under her spot on the roost looks fine.

She feels like she may have lost a little weight but her weight is still good because she's a big heavy hen. Her comb looks sad, her expression is sort of dull. She's normally a BIG personality. I checked her butt, and it's reasonably clean, not caked with poop. She had a bath last week because she was poopy, and I saw no signs of parasites. She's eating, just not as food oriented as normal.

Today she was upright all day, but moving almost in slow motion like she was very tired. She almost lost her balance coming up the ramp to the coop and had to use a wing for a second. High temps the last few days are <90, lows overnight about 70. So it's not beastly. We've had some rain/storms so it's humid but a couple weeks ago it was 105 heat index day after day, so this is not bad. I was giving electrolyte/vitamin water but when temps moderated I switched to clear water.

She does not seem sick enough to cage and bring away from the others. But she's not right either so maybe I should? I'm encouraged that I'm getting her to eat scrambled egg and that she recovers somewhat overnight.

Nutridrench? vitamin B? back to electrolytes? I figure this is probably heat stress/old age/molting though it does seem to be just a partial molt? Or, it could be she's succumbing to old age but I sure hope not, she's pretty special to me.

I've attached pictures-- she does not look pathetic except for her scant tail feathers and that comb. It's much paler during the day, and regains some pinkness at night. These were taken after she'd been asleep on the roost for a couple hours. Mostly normal poops, but she did let go one really wet squirt while I was there. In pictures with TWO of them she's the darker hen.

Thoughts?

@Wyorp Rock, @Eggcessive @azygous in case any of you are around
It is molting season.
 
Maybe she is moulting or having a gland problem.
9yo hens are getting old and she might get slower bc of their age. Some just slow down at an older age than others.
A pink and small comb is normal when a hen stops laying.

I would give mostly chick feed/wet chick feed to be sure they eat it all.
Not so much extras unless they find it (free ranging).

Maybe its time to make things easy for your older hen.
Like making a less high roost in case the high roost gets difficult, And provide a separate calm spot to take a break /roost away from the crowd.

Hot and also cold weather is more difficult for old hens that are less fit.
 
They all eat Klambach 18% Chick Starter reserve. They tend to pick out the big bits and leave crumble. I usually top with some worms/grubs and sunflower seeds.

Nutridrench? vitamin B? back to electrolytes? I figure this is probably heat stress/old age/molting though it does seem to be just a partial molt? Or, it could be she's succumbing to old age but I sure hope not, she's pretty special to me.
I'm sorry Goldie is not feeling very well.

I agree, it could be age related and she's starting to slow down.
She may also be in the beginning stages of molt, which can cause them to go off feed, feel poorly for themselves and be more standoffish as well.

I would try to encourage her to eat her normal feed. If the feed is a loose type feed and she's picking out all the things she likes and not eating the crumbles too, it's possible she's not getting a total nutritional profile. You can try offering the feed wet so it's more incorporated or switch to just crumbles/pellets for a more complete nutritional profile.

I don't think it's hurt to give her vitamin therapy to see if she improves. A direct dose of Poultry Cell 3 times a week would be good. Direct oral dosing is 1cc per 3lbs of weight.

If you have photos of the lovely lady, those are welcome.
Keep us posted on how she's getting along.
 
thank you all for your input. I hope this is just her starting to molt. Usually she molts VERY hard, ie, looks like she spent 3 minutes in a blender. She looses almost all her feathers and looks awful. This time, so far, just tail feathers.

@Wyorp Rock I think I'll add a bit of vitamins in the mix, just in case it helps. Maybe separate her for some private feedings, though she may just fuss. I did attach a few pictures on my original post. It's really just the lack of tail feathers and her pathetic comb which at least partially returns to pink at night. Its super pale during the day.
 

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