Against Soya and coccidiostat. Feed idea

[VanUnamed]

P.S. @VanUnamed , if you have the philosophy that weak chicks should be allowed to die, while the strong survive, I understand. No judgement here about that. Many view chickens as just a source of eggs and meat, and losses are acceptable in the process.

I just wanted to make sure you know you don't "need" to accept death from Coccidiosis. It can be treated.

Fact is, Retarded feed store where I USED to go before, when I asked medication for coccidiosis... they gave me something that was basically apple cider vinegar. I have no idea where to find corid, hence unfortunately when they get sick they die

 

[Cyprus]

Fact is, Retarded feed store where I USED to go before, when I asked medication for coccidiosis... they gave me something that was basically apple cider vinegar. I have no idea where to find corid, hence unfortunately when they get sick they die

Any chance you can order it online?

 

[VanUnamed]

Maybe. also on the notion that baby chicks cannot digest seeds, i beg to differ. Whole seeds yes, pulverized grains should be OK. after all what's in the starter crumble? and for the chicks I would buy the concentrate and make feed 20% protein. even if it still has soya

 

[VanUnamed]

Ok, i have looked online, http://www.veterinara.ro/ANTIPARAZITARE-INTERNE/
this site should have the medication for it. isn't corid active ingredient amrpolium? if so that site has it
Wish I knew the language a bit better last year

 

[MykaMom]

I've never had coccidiosis. I hope I never do: I have a parrot to protect! I've never fed medicated feed either. I've added electrolytes and vitamins during high heat. I've had to treat injuries from predator attack, but that's it.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Fact is, Retarded feed store where I USED to go before, when I asked medication for coccidiosis... they gave me something that was basically apple cider vinegar. I have no idea where to find corid, hence unfortunately when they get sick they die

You do have medicated feed available though correct? You could try using that.
A vet should be able to get some Amprolium for you or if you know any dairy/cattle farmers, they may have some to give you.

I have seen some "alternative" methods as well - but could not tell you if they are effective or not - if you have no access to traditional medication like Amprolium, sulfonamides or other drugs commonly used for treatment of Coccidiosis, then that may be something to consider trying too. Search for organic or alternative treatment/prevention of coccidiosis in poultry or similar phrases - you should find information about Milk Flushes and herbal applications.
Here's a couple you may be interested in :
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/milk-flush-for-coccidiosis.186479/
https://www.fresheggsdaily.com/2013/11/coccidia-coccidiosis-natural-prevention.html

 

[VanUnamed]

For the feed idea. I should still buy unsprayed grains from my contact when it's harvest time, bad that it goes they can still be milled and fed to pigs with pig concentrate, but for chickens I should find some else as a protein source. it's probably possible to find field peas, or I could grow lupins.
Mykamom. Last year I had 2 chicks die of coccidiosis. it is also true that I kept them in an outdoor brooder and I let them go on the soil early. Last death, a lohmann brown chick. But i am dead, dead sure that it was sick from the plant where I bought them. Brooder was new feeder and drinker clean and sterilized, bedding was wood chips and this chick showed signs of disease merely hours after being brought home? (chicks were 3 weeks old. not 1 day)

 

[VanUnamed]

wyorp, I lost faith in coccidiostats because... I always fed amprolium medicated feed. and they got sick anyways.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

wyorp, I lost faith in coccidiostats because... I always fed amprolium medicated feed. and they got sick anyways.

There's plenty of people that have chicks that become ill while on medicated feed. It is just a very small amount. While on medicated feed, chicks need to be exposed to poop, but the brooder needs to be kept dry. Water stations need to be cleaned frequently and kept as free of poop as possible.

I would keep Corid (Amprolium) on hand, even if you can only find chick starter with the amprolium in it, I would still have the Corid. Treat them if they become sick regardless of what they are eating.

 

[paneubert]

wyorp, I lost faith in coccidiostats because... I always fed amprolium medicated feed. and they got sick anyways.

Yep. This is what I meant when I said I don't see the benefit of relying on medicated feed. The Amprolium level is pretty low. I am sure it has prevented countless situations where a chick was bordering on having a load that was too great for them to handle, but I bet those cases would have still only been "mild" if medicated feed was not used. I think for the dangerously high load cases, the medicated feed would not have made a difference. It takes a much stronger dose of Amprolium. But that is just me!