Aggressive cockerel.

[Johnn]

Well he is lucky someone offered him a home or tomorrow would be "the day":

 

[Johnn]

Went to his new home today!:

 

[evilcitty]

Oh hooray...I was reading through this expecting the worst at the end. I suppose someone likes a 'challenge'. I hope they are okay with him. I wonder if your could tether a mean roo? Sorta like a creance or something and just keep out of range?

I don't think I could cull a mean roo. I think I would just make him a mini batchelor pad of his own with a little run where I didn't need to go inside to top up feed & water.

I don't like the dog comment. It's not comparable to a mean roo. Dogs are deffo 100% products of their owners whereas it doesn't matter how nice you are to a roo, they can still be mean it seems!!

 

[chooks4life]

Quote: No. Dogs are NOT 100% a product of their owners. That is denying the reality of the fact that we successfully breed traits in and out of them, including aggression. That is also denying the reality of the fact that dogs are able to make their own decisions. Otherwise, you are claiming they are programmable robots that cannot be bred to be better or worse at any behaviour. If that's you claim, you would need to brush up on the history of the dog.

Some dogs that have gone on to be maulers are products of the best owners --- and the worst ancestors. Some of the best dogs are products of the worst owners, conversely, and this is not uncommon either. These are actually well documented facts. Some of the best and smartest owners/trainers have had to have dogs put down or caged like wild beasts. They can have great success but dogs have their own minds. At the end of the day, MOST dogs are products of their owners, but some will always turn. Some dogs, due to our bad breeding, don't see how mauling is not acceptable, like some pit bulls wagging their tails as they maul multiple people one after the other after the other. If you do even a little research into breeding traits into working animals, you will see that the human has great influence, but not total influence.

If you keep and breed an animal which harms humans, you are to blame for the next generations of dangerous creatures it produces, and the human injuries and loss of life that eventuate. It's a terrible shame that great roosters are dying for want of a home and people are keeping and breeding killers and maimers. Sometime in future the rooster you spared, or his descendants, will kill a human child. It's not uncommon at all. Anyone who spares a violent rooster should be aware of the eventual result and sooner or later that will be the death of a toddler or small child. An animal showing potential for aggression may be able to be reformed. Once it has committed to aggression, that's the end of it, unless you believe that animal is worth more than a human. Which some people do believe.

 

[Johnn]

Oh hooray...I was reading through this expecting the worst at the end. I suppose someone likes a 'challenge'. I hope they are okay with him. I wonder if your could tether a mean roo? Sorta like a creance or something and just keep out of range?

I don't think I could cull a mean roo. I think I would just make him a mini batchelor pad of his own with a little run where I didn't need to go inside to top up feed & water.

I don't like the dog comment. It's not comparable to a mean roo. Dogs are deffo 100% products of their owners whereas it doesn't matter how nice you are to a roo, they can still be mean it seems!!


Hopefully the change will do him good because I hatched him out from day one and he has only ever been with me and been aggressive to me. He will still be free range in his new home on 4 acres with 10 hens of his own

 

[chooks4life]

Quote: It's extremely unlikely he will stop. he'll probably take a little break while he figures out the next 'alpha' human to attack, but in his mind, you and whoever feeds him or handles the poultry are merely weak roosters to be culled. It's like expecting a rooster to suddenly decide he doesn't want to mate with hens after he's already been mating. Or expecting a chicken to stop eating eggs by itself once it's started. Why would the chicken stop a rewarding behaviour for no reason? It won't.

The issue is that nobody has successfully stopped a rooster being aggressively minded once he's started attacking; instead people give them 'bachelor pads' and often cage them and continue to breed them. His mindset does not change because you put a wall between you!

He doesn't deserve a single hen. He has the inclination to do violence, he has begun to do violence, he is now being given the reward of breeding more like himself. There was no need for him to be violent but now it will be bred on because as far as genetics are concerned, that behaviour is simply a part of what worked for him in his life. Therefore a survival trait since he didn't die before he could pass it on. And truly good roosters have died for want of someone to take them, while people make charity cases of vicious threats to human safety. It's not like he was abused to become that way, was it?

This is truly a shame. I understand your reasons for it, though, but from my experience with chickens and many other species, I cannot support it.

Best wishes to you and yours.