Aggressive Toms

[Heirloom Chick]

Chuckle! I'm in!

 

[leishajane]

I have one jake that I have raised from a 5 day old baby. Originally I had two, one female one male... And they were no problem. He's currently about ten months old and we lost our girl to a horrific raccoon attack approximately a month or two ago. My boy managed to escape but seemed very shaken for a few days. Since then, he's been a major problem. He's free ranged during the day with the rest of the flock (60 chickens, 8 ducks, 3 peacocks, and some goats, a donkey, and a pony) on an 11 acre property. Generally he's ok..... But if there is any chance you have something edible in your hands- he will charge and trample anything in his path to get to it. He's fine with me- I've never had an issue (unless I'm holding a feed scoop or bread) but he goes into fits where he attacks my husband. Not always, sometimes he minds his own business but it seems to be in waves. He's fine for a few days or weeks and then the next day he charges and attacks every time my husband goes outside. This goes on for a few days and then he's fine again. He puffs up at my son and tends to chase him, but hasn't pecked him yet, unlike with my husband. He's usually good with my daughter and she tends to walk up to him and pet him to calm him down and distract him from my son... But occasionally he puffs at her too. I'm the only one he hasn't shown aggression towards. How do I stop this? I'm a bit attached to him and would hate to have to get rid of him... Would getting another girl or Tom help? I'm willing to try anything.

 

[livininbrazil]

Chuckle! I'm in!

 

[livininbrazil]

I have one jake that I have raised from a 5 day old baby. Originally I had two, one female one male... And they were no problem. He's currently about ten months old and we lost our girl to a horrific raccoon attack approximately a month or two ago. My boy managed to escape but seemed very shaken for a few days. Since then, he's been a major problem. He's free ranged during the day with the rest of the flock (60 chickens, 8 ducks, 3 peacocks, and some goats, a donkey, and a pony) on an 11 acre property. Generally he's ok..... But if there is any chance you have something edible in your hands- he will charge and trample anything in his path to get to it. He's fine with me- I've never had an issue (unless I'm holding a feed scoop or bread) but he goes into fits where he attacks my husband. Not always, sometimes he minds his own business but it seems to be in waves. He's fine for a few days or weeks and then the next day he charges and attacks every time my husband goes outside. This goes on for a few days and then he's fine again. He puffs up at my son and tends to chase him, but hasn't pecked him yet, unlike with my husband. He's usually good with my daughter and she tends to walk up to him and pet him to calm him down and distract him from my son... But occasionally he puffs at her too. I'm the only one he hasn't shown aggression towards. How do I stop this? I'm a bit attached to him and would hate to have to get rid of him... Would getting another girl or Tom help? I'm willing to try anything.

Read through Chooks4life´s comments on this thread, she makes some very good points, maybe it´ll help.

 

[chooks4life]

Quote: Thanks, callieisspooky. I've got a lot more learning to do before I'd consider myself wise, but I've been doing a lot of learning lately, so I'm hopeful I believe everyone's smart in their own areas and I reckon too many people hold back on sharing their experiences because they don't think they're educated enough, or whatever, but there is value in everyone's experiences. Even if they can't spell too good.
Quote: lol, chknoodles. Spelling isn't the most important thing, though, some of the smartest people I know can't spell to save their lives, but I always learn something from them. All my good spelling would be pointless if nobody found anything useful in my posts.
Quote: What's "chunter"?

I agree with everything else you said, and don't worry about those you offend, sooner or later we've all got to put our adult pants on and just get along even if we disagree with someone. Everyone's got some experience that someone else can learn from. Like that quote about the 'whys'.

Best wishes.

 

[livininbrazil]

Thanks, callieisspooky. I've got a lot more learning to do before I'd consider myself wise, but I've been doing a lot of learning lately, so I'm hopeful I believe everyone's smart in their own areas and I reckon too many people hold back on sharing their experiences because they don't think they're educated enough, or whatever, but there is value in everyone's experiences. Even if they can't spell too good.
lol, chknoodles. Spelling isn't the most important thing, though, some of the smartest people I know can't spell to save their lives, but I always learn something from them. All my good spelling would be pointless if nobody found anything useful in my posts.
What's "chunter"?

I agree with everything else you said, and don't worry about those you offend, sooner or later we've all got to put our adult pants on and just get along even if we disagree with someone. Everyone's got some experience that someone else can learn from. Like that quote about the 'whys'.

"chunter" is a coloquialism...it´s the noise a little old engine/motor makes when it´s running...

Sometimes ones hold back also because they don´t want to get a mouthful when someone takes exception to an opinion. But, of course, there´s always someone else who will find it useful.
With some of my posts I´ve managed to upset people and got ovations for the same comment...there ya go!
And as regards the spelling comment, it made me chuckle, but really, as an English teacher I´m a bit picky, too. However, there are some very expert people in their field who can´t spell...just as long as the English Teachers can!

 

[chooks4life]

Quote: Oh, I see. I've heard a similar one for puking, "chunder" which is initially what I thought it might be, lol. But the context was too different.
Quote: If you're helping some and offending others it generally means you're on the right track, more's the pity, lol. I have the same experiences a lot.
Quote: True that!

I didn't know you were an English teacher. How do you manage with dyslexic kids?

 

[livininbrazil]

Oh, I see. I've heard a similar one for puking, "chunder" which is initially what I thought it might be, lol. But the context was too different.
If you're helping some and offending others it generally means you're on the right track, more's the pity, lol. I have the same experiences a lot.
True that!

I didn't know you were an English teacher. How do you manage with dyslexic kids?

"chunder"...funny.
"offense" There´s a great scripture that says that the taking of offense lies in the bosom of the stupid ones....so I try not to take it!

I also try not to give it, but some are determined...I like your signature...very nice.
"English teacher" Interesting you asked that question. At the moment I teach Brazilians to speak English, so normally I wouldn´t have any with reading difficulties, but in England I used to do support teaching for children who had difficulty in reading, but it was only support...the dyslexic children had a specialist teacher to help. I just followed up. Here, I had one Brazilian pupil who has learning difficulties in general, (not dyslexic) but he was able to remember a lot, so he learned phrases in English by heart, which helped him progress. Dyslexics are generally very switched-on people, they find ways to cope. And English is a horrendous language for a dyslexic person, too.

 

[chooks4life]

English is a horrible language for most, I've often heard that it's one of the hardest languages to learn. Interesting that in England specialist teachers help dyslexics. Here we just throw them to the wolves and humiliate them for being so lazy! Kidding, sort of. They are humiliated over it but it's not because they're actually lazy, because they're not. I have dyslexic family members so I've been pretty familiar with the treatment of dyslexics in school. Until very recently here that word was interchangeable with 'lazy' or 'stupid'.

There's a lot of kids who are the numerical equivalent of it too, who have dyscalculia. One kid I know has both, lol! And not a single one of them could be honestly considered stupid. But there's always been quite a few teenagers (boys and girls) crying in maths class, just like in english class. Australia's been slow to wake up to the need represented by these kids. But, better late than never. I think one language that must be taught as well is sign language. I forget where and when I read the stats but a quite large percentage of people are deaf and/or mute and to not teach that language to them, as well as normal kids, silences them very effectively and it's inhumane.

 

[livininbrazil]

English is a horrible language for most, I've often heard that it's one of the hardest languages to learn. Interesting that in England specialist teachers help dyslexics. Here we just throw them to the wolves and humiliate them for being so lazy! Kidding, sort of. They are humiliated over it but it's not because they're actually lazy, because they're not. I have dyslexic family members so I've been pretty familiar with the treatment of dyslexics in school. Until very recently here that word was interchangeable with 'lazy' or 'stupid'.

There's a lot of kids who are the numerical equivalent of it too, who have dyscalculia. One kid I know has both, lol! And not a single one of them could be honestly considered stupid. But there's always been quite a few teenagers (boys and girls) crying in maths class, just like in english class. Australia's been slow to wake up to the need represented by these kids. But, better late than never. I think one language that must be taught as well is sign language. I forget where and when I read the stats but a quite large percentage of people are deaf and/or mute and to not teach that language to them, as well as normal kids, silences them very effectively and it's inhumane.

I have a deaf friend in England. She grew up in a hearing environment and learned to lip-read. her greatest difficlulty is when she´s in a group of hearing people, it´s almost impossible for her to keep up with the conversation. I and a few other friends learned sign language so we could help her better, and sometimes we´d go with her to interviews, meetings, etc, to interpret when needed. But she´s now in her 60s, it´s so different there now. There´s quite a deaf community that knows sign language, and family members are also encouraged to learn it. Also here in Brazil, there is a very large deaf community, they all have their own sign language and many hearing Brazilians learn the basics in order to communicate in the community.

Sounds like it´s a bit behind the times there. My daughter at school was border-line dyslexic..normally these get over-looked. The headmistress was puzzled because my daughter was sometimes right on the ball, and other times appeared quite dim. They did IQ tests with her, which showed her to be higher than average. They felt she didn´t need any specialist help, just a little more patience. She also has this that you termed dyscalculia, I´ve not heard that term. It was always included in the dyslexic bracket as far as I know. She can´t do maths to save her life, but...she´s 30 years old, and an English teacher now.

I don´t know if it was just in the south where we lived that there was the support, or if England does well in this area in general..but dyslexia was recognised back when she was little, and people were trying to help ones who suffered from this back then.

In teaching English, I don´t feel the language itself is really that difficult regarding grammar, for instance; (other languages are far more complicated), but the spelling/pronunciation is a nightmare, which has become even more apparent to me since teaching these poor Brazillians, who have a very phonetic way of writing portuguese....they have such difficulty with the English pronunciation just because there are so many variables when it comes to the pronunciation of the words...which, of course, goes back to the fact that English is an amalgam of so many languages...

which I find fascinating, but not everyone does.......