Alternatives to chaining my new dog....

[Sparklecoon]

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JMHO, but that sounds a bit cruel. I'm sure if someone saw that they'd have A.C. out there asap.

 

[michigan chick]

We have two dogs and they are both long haired. One is a Aussie Shepard and the other is a Collie mix. So both have large mane. We use a 1 acre wireless invisible fence. We have two units so we can over lap them and use 2 full acres of are land. They only where them if they need a reminder. We had them where them for two days and on the third day they both knew there boundaries. I watch them and if one crosses the line then they where them for a day and then not again for a month or so. We got them at Pet Smart because they have a 30 day return policy and if they didn't work with my dogs I didn't want to be out that money. You can find them a lot cheaper online. Ebay had them almost $100 cheaper. I hope this helps.

 

[DawnSuiter]

wireless fence $300 give or take
wired invisible fence $300 give or take
both with only 1 collar... which would be ok since the other three have thier smaller fenced run

300' worth of 6' chicken wire is 175.96 at tractor supply
I probably have enough scrap & standing trees & saplings to make the posts... this might be the cheapest option...

other than serious digging or attempts to get out.. that should contain him, and the rest of our dogs for that matter, which frees up the current lengths of cheap fencing for chicken & turkey pens.

does anyone know how long those cheap landscape timbers are from Lowe's and so forth? Maybe I could use those for posts in case I might need to buy a few...?

$300 to not have to do any digging etc.. sure is sounding good, but that's a ton of extra money...

 

[Beekissed]

That price is trivial compared to the $600 vet bill and the screaming pain experienced by my Pyrenese mix when she got out of my "securely" fenced in yard and got hit on the road. Two months in a cast and in-house confinement later, I gladly gave up the cost of the wireless invisible fencing and now have a second dog on it. So, now we have the dogs contained AND fenced to avoid future problems. I can't say enough good things about the Petsafe brand wireless fence, I've had it for 2 years now without a mishap! It has paid for itself 10 times over for the peace of mind with knowing your dog is safe. They may have been other people's castoff dogs, but they are valuable members of our farm team and family. In exchange for their vigilance and protection, I provide a safe, no-tie existence. Trust me, its worth it in the end!

 

[Cara]

I can't say I think much of invisible 'fences'. I know of several dogs who have been hit by cars after running through them. They also make an escapee unwilling to return home as they do not want to cross the boundary again. On top of that, they do not keep other animals out, so if an aggressive dog/coyote/bear/lion (in our area) comes into your yard your own dog has no escape. I prefer the peace of mind of knowing my dogs physically cannot get out, and nobody else's animals can get in. We use a 5' welded wire fence with a hotwire top and bottom; our previous house had a 3' pipe fence with 2' flowerbed fencing! We tied 6' T-posts to the existing pipe fence, added 5' welded wire halfway up, and had a hot wire top and bottom for good measure. That yard could have kept buffalo in, not to mention our German Shorthair/Houdini.

 

[spook]

Dogs are only as smart as their owners. If the owner wants a dog that is hyper and out of control, train it like most parents teach their children...When you give a dog its boundries of right, wrong, how far to go using a stern voice when it leaves the boundries, don't hollar at it all the time only when you have a emergency with the dog itself.
Don't hit it, you already are the alpha, if you give your best friend "jobs", keep him active, leave no time for boredom, that is what brings chicken chasers, innocent time to have fun.
If you should want him to do his business off near the woods, then teach it from day one. Don't make it easy to pee in the house and he won't. And if it does, where could you have been a better parent?
We used the sprinkle products when we got our first dog that in 2 years never had been free from a chain and abused, actually had buck shot in her hip and leg where they shot her. Beautiful girl, we had her for years, loyal and the best dog, we taught her with the dog and cat "no" and with us it worked.
And always remember...Never start what you are going to have to stop. Such as the great dane in your lap on the couch, it will be uncomfortable in a few months!! If you want that puppy to sit with you, sit on its bed and snuggle.
You are the parent, alpha dog, wolves are great teachers of how to treat and train a dog. (feed it kibble please!

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[DawnSuiter]

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While I appreciate your sentiment, and for the most part agree with you, wolves do not pay vet bills, fines, or for that matter do anything for those left behind. so.. their example is not the best example

training alone will not do it in my case, and not all dogs are created equal, you must know that.. some are just pure instinct & can hardly control themselves... for instance.. my chihuaha/basenji mix.. she can handle any verbal controls like; whisper, scoot back, back up, I can even count to 3 for her to get her bone even trying to trick her and she knows exactly when to get it, she's fantastic at that stuff...
but get her in an environment where there is a scent to track and she's completely unresponsive. She gets hours of excercise, walks on a treadmill, carries a backpack.. regardless... those few times.. she's just unresponsive and can never be trusted out of a fence or off the leash.

Boy.. the dog in question here though is much more mellow, but young, we have 3 mellow dogs & 1 hyper nutso dog. I have never had a dog outside a fence line purposely so I've been training him best that I can think of... but he still wanders out of site.

 

[WrenAli]

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JMHO, but that sounds a bit cruel. I'm sure if someone saw that they'd have A.C. out there asap.

Nothing cruel about it if you pay attention to the dogs. You are just limiting how fast/far they can go. Much better than chaining them to something.

Shepherds use this all the time with their livestock guardian dogs when they are puppies/young to keep them from playing with the sheep to rough.

If can be cruel if you tie in on and leave the dog stuck, if they get stuck. But it is more cruel to chaining a dog outside all the time.

 

[cackle]

For around 400.00 we put up a light electric ribbon like used for cattle. I have touched it and where is does not hurt it gets you attention. It keeps in our 3 big dogs in. They stop about 5 feet in front of the gate. It has been wonderful. They use to travel a mile down the road to where some goats live and be gone for hours. In the 9 months the fence has been up they have stayed in the acre we have fenced.

 

[farmgirlie1031]

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That's what we have for our horses. My dog hit it once and now never goes under the fence to try and chase the horses That stuff really works. She is normally fenced in but sometimes I let her run off-lead with me outside she would be great and listen really well to my commands and then a horse might take off running and playing and her herding drive would kick in and under the fence she would go to chase it back to the barn where she thinks it belongs. She did that once and hit the electric fence and now she ignores the horses completly. And since the fence is temporary we can take it with us when we move.

She sees white tape and remembers "Oh, yeah, ouch, I don't wanna touch that." That's why I thought one strand of it above your fence will help keep your dog in.