Am I a boy or girl?

[GardenGirl]

Hi all,

I know the black and white one is a roo, but the brown one has us confused. He doesn't have any long tail feathers, but his head is red like a roo. We think he is a roo, but without the long feathers he looks like a hen. Please help. Thanks!
We think they are silkie X's. They are 5 toed, standard sized chickens. They are 12 - 13 weeks old and neither has crowed yet!

Here's the B/W roo:

And here are a few of the questionable brown one. Sorry they're fuzzy. He doesn't stand still at all!

 

[Featherland]

This is FEATHERLAND's daughter. I think it is a rooster. Sometimes roosters don't have long tail feathers. But his comb is bigger than a hen's for sure.

 

[coffeemama]

A roo I think. Could they be houdan crosses? They don't really look like silkie crosses to me, but I dunno!

 

[LilPeeps]

They're both cockerels. The red looks clean legged. If that's the case he's probably not crossed with a silkie.

 

[jossanne]

I think they're both roos. See the long, pointy feathers at the base of his tail (his saddle area) and the pointy, shiny feathers at the bottom of his neck (hackle feathers)? Those are pretty good indicators of roo-ness

 

[GardenGirl]

Thanks for the responses. We were pretty sure he was a roo, but like I said, I've never seen one without long tail feathers.

LilPeeps, both of them have a few feathers on their legs. The person we got them from when they were 6 weeks said they were silkies. I know they are not full blooded and I'm kind of surprised that she didn't know for sure what they were. Her daughter raised 50 of these chicks from a friend's farm for the 4-H. I thought you had to know the breed to enter them. I could be wrong.