Amberlink over BR sexlink?

[TyRi]

I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Do you have some of these hens and are wanting to know what happens when you cross them with your roosters?

The hens are gold and not-barred, so they cannot produce sexlinked chicks of either type. With the Cream Legbar rooster, they should produce chicks that show gold & black, plus white barring, in both males and females.
With the Amberlink rooster, they should produce chcks that show gold & black, or silver & black, or gold & white, or silver & white, each color being possible in both males and females.

Since that information says they are a cross of Partridge Rock and Sussex, it makes no sense to call them "Leghorns." The chickens in the photos do not look like Partridge Rocks, or any Sussex variety I know of, or even what I would expect from a cross betwen the two. So I think the parent stock probably has some kind of mixed ancestry, not actually what is stated. I would trust that the name "Pearl Star Leghorn" means the chickens described there, in feather colors and laying ability and egg color, but I strongly doubt some of the other information. I won't quite accuse them of drawing names from a hat or rolling dice to decide which breed names to use, but every now and then I do wonder...

Yes! They are the brown chickens pictured!
Last few questions I swear!! (I hope) LOL
1. Would breeding the pearl stars to CL produce a bluish egg or would they be still more on the brown side? And how strong would you guess the light barring would show because that sounds like they could look neat!

2. Would breeding pearl star to amberlink continue/strengthen the egg laying capability? 265-300/yr and 285-300/yr respectively or would the extensiveness of them being hybrids be more on their parent stock? They also sound like it would be a fun hatch to see what comes out!

 

[TyRi]

Couple more of them

 

[TyRi]

Thread 'Lakeside Egger Thread'
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/lakeside-egger-thread.1621202/
Guessing CL over the olive eggers would potentially look similar to these?

 

[NatJ]

1. Would breeding the pearl stars to CL produce a bluish egg or would they be still more on the brown side? And how strong would you guess the light barring would show because that sounds like they could look neat!

Egg color mostly blue, possibly a light greenish color.

White barring would probably show about as clearly on the mixes as it does on Cream Legbar hens.

2. Would breeding pearl star to amberlink continue/strengthen the egg laying capability? 265-300/yr and 285-300/yr respectively or would the extensiveness of them being hybrids be more on their parent stock? They also sound like it would be a fun hatch to see what comes out!

You might get a few that are much worse layers, or a few that are slightly better layers, but I would mostly expect the chicks to lay within the same range as their parents. For the Amberlinks and the Pearl Stars to lay that well, they probably have good layers for parents on both sides, so there should not be many "bad layer" genes present for their offspring to potentially inherit.

Thread 'Lakeside Egger Thread'
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/lakeside-egger-thread.1621202/
Guessing CL over the olive eggers would potentially look similar to these?

Yes, if you breed your Olive Eggers to a Cream Legbar rooster, I would expect that some or maybe all chicks would look about like those.

 

[TyRi]

Egg color mostly blue, possibly a light greenish color.

White barring would probably show about as clearly on the mixes as it does on Cream Legbar hens.


You might get a few that are much worse layers, or a few that are slightly better layers, but I would mostly expect the chicks to lay within the same range as their parents. For the Amberlinks and the Pearl Stars to lay that well, they probably have good layers for parents on both sides, so there should not be many "bad layer" genes present for their offspring to potentially inherit.


Yes, if you breed your Olive Eggers to a Cream Legbar rooster, I would expect that some or maybe all chicks would look about like those.

Well that makes some interesting decisions then! Potential for some higher producing blue egg layers or just a steady line of my higher production layers. Sounds like they may get moved around between pens!! Thank you again so very much!! I have extremely enjoyed all your knowledge on the possibilities of my birds!! You are incredible!

 

[NatJ]

Well that makes some interesting decisions then! Potential for some higher producing blue egg layers or just a steady line of my higher production layers. Sounds like they may get moved around between pens!!

Or you could put some in one pen and some in the other pen, rather than moving them around.

Thank you again so very much!! I have extremely enjoyed all your knowledge on the possibilities of my birds!! You are incredible!

Glad I could help

 

[TyRi]

Or you could put some in one pen and some in the other pen, rather than moving them around.


Glad I could help

Quick question for you whenever you have time! I am in contact with someone about potentially adding some Lemon Owlbeards and ever since you have broken everything down in this thread for me, I think about what would come of breeding different chickens! So if you would want, I would love to hear if crossing my roosters with those owlbeards would produce any cool feather patterns or if they would not show any of the patterning! I also would guess since they lay white that they would lay lighter brown and a light tinted blue egg. Thanks so much!

 

[NatJ]

...crossing my roosters with those owlbeards... would guess since they lay white that they would lay lighter brown and a light tinted blue egg.

I agree, that is what the egg colors of their chicks would probably be.

Lemon Owlbeards...crossing my roosters... feather patterns

Lemon Owlbeard hens with Cream Legbar rooster: chicks will probably have cream-and-black or lemon-and-black coloring, probably with patterning of some sort, and white barring across it all. The "patterning" might look like bad spangling, or bad lacing, or bad double-lacing, or maybe something that isn't really any of those.

Lemon Owlbeard hens with Amberlink rooster, all chicks will probably show bad single lacing. That might be black lacing on red/gold/lemon/cream color, or black lacing on white, or white lacing on red/gold/lemon/cream, or white lacing on white. I would expect all four of those in approximately equal numbers. All chicks would have some chance of red leakage, no matter what other colors they have. So for example, males might have dark red shoulders even if the rest of their coloring has no red.

I would expect chicks to have beards (inherited from Owlbeard mother), although there is a chance of chicks without beards. I would expect combs to mostly be double: like a V-comb or more likely resembling a Buttercup comb, but some might look single in front and split at the back or some other odd combination. Chicks from a Cream Legbar father will probably show crests. It looks like Owlbeards have small crests, so chicks with an Amberlink father would also be expected to have small crests. I can't say whether the crests would be big enough to notice, or so small they don't matter at all.

 

[TyRi]

I agree, that is what the egg colors of their chicks would probably be.



Lemon Owlbeard hens with Cream Legbar rooster: chicks will probably have cream-and-black or lemon-and-black coloring, probably with patterning of some sort, and white barring across it all. The "patterning" might look like bad spangling, or bad lacing, or bad double-lacing, or maybe something that isn't really any of those.

Lemon Owlbeard hens with Amberlink rooster, all chicks will probably show bad single lacing. That might be black lacing on red/gold/lemon/cream color, or black lacing on white, or white lacing on red/gold/lemon/cream, or white lacing on white. I would expect all four of those in approximately equal numbers. All chicks would have some chance of red leakage, no matter what other colors they have. So for example, males might have dark red shoulders even if the rest of their coloring has no red.

I would expect chicks to have beards (inherited from Owlbeard mother), although there is a chance of chicks without beards. I would expect combs to mostly be double: like a V-comb or more likely resembling a Buttercup comb, but some might look single in front and split at the back or some other odd combination. Chicks from a Cream Legbar father will probably show crests. It looks like Owlbeards have small crests, so chicks with an Amberlink father would also be expected to have small crests. I can't say whether the crests would be big enough to notice, or so small they don't matter at all.

What about a male Owlbeard over the ladies? My Amberlink has started to get a little aggressive with my wife so he may not be around too much longer! Again, thank you so much and apologies for the constant questions but I love hearing your information!

 

[NatJ]

What about a male Owlbeard over the ladies?

Egg color of daughters should be about the same.

The crest/beard/comb part should be the same no matter which direction you do the cross:

I would expect chicks to have beards (inherited from Owlbeard mother), although there is a chance of chicks without beards. I would expect combs to mostly be double: like a V-comb or more likely resembling a Buttercup comb, but some might look single in front and split at the back or some other odd combination. Chicks from a Cream Legbar father will probably show crests. It looks like Owlbeards have small crests, so chicks with an Amberlink father would also be expected to have small crests. I can't say whether the crests would be big enough to notice, or so small they don't matter at all.

Example of combs from a V/single cross:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/new-breed.1557482/page-3#post-26389401
(If I did the link right, it will go to the exact post with the picture.)

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/what-kind-of-comb-is-this.1523566/
(First post of this thread has photos of a chick with such a comb.)

Lemon Owlbeard hens with Cream Legbar rooster: chicks will probably have cream-and-black or lemon-and-black coloring, probably with patterning of some sort, and white barring across it all. The "patterning" might look like bad spangling, or bad lacing, or bad double-lacing, or maybe something that isn't really any of those.

Legbar hen/Owlbeard rooster will give chicks like what I described above, except that only sons will have white barring and daughters will not.

Lemon Owlbeard hens with Amberlink rooster, all chicks will probably show bad single lacing. That might be black lacing on red/gold/lemon/cream color, or black lacing on white, or white lacing on red/gold/lemon/cream, or white lacing on white. I would expect all four of those in approximately equal numbers. All chicks would have some chance of red leakage, no matter what other colors they have. So for example, males might have dark red shoulders even if the rest of their coloring has no red.

Amberlink hen/Owlbeard rooster should give sons that show silver (white) and daughters that show gold (red/gold/cream/lemon.) The patterning should be what I suggested above, and could be in white or black on both males and females. So these chicks should be color-sexable (gold female, silver male).

barred rock, blue rock, Silver Laced Wyandotte, Amberlink, and olive egger hens

Owlbeard rooster should give duplex comb, muff/beard, tiny crest to chicks in all cases (unless he carries the gene for not-crest or not-muff/beard, in which case some of his chicks will lack those traits.) Chicks with single-comb mothers should show some form of duplex comb, although it is likely to look bigger and less tidy than his, because he has two duplex genes and they have one. Chicks that inherit pea comb or rose comb from their mothers may not show visible effects from the V-comb gene (duplex), or they might have some splitting of the comb (which might look really odd.)

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/what-kind-of-comb-is-this.1523566/#post-25662074
This post shows a chicken with both V and pea comb genes, with a V/single one in the background.

V comb with rose is giving me trouble. I haven't turned up any photos yet, and I'm tired of looking.

Owlbeard rooster with Barred Rock hens should give black sexlink chicks (daughters black, sons black with white barring.)

Owlbeard rooster with Blue Rock hens should give blue or black chicks (either color can be either sex.) There is a chance of chicks that show blue or black patterning on a red/gold/cream/lemon color, with patterning being in the same range as the Amberlink-mix chicks have.

Owlbeard rooster with Olive Egger hens should give some black chicks. They might also produce chicks of other colors (I think I predicted that with the other roosters too.)

Any of those "black" or "blue" chicks may show leakage of other colors as they grow up. That also goes for ones with white barring on black.

Owlbeard rooster with Silver Laced Wyandotte hens should give sexlinks (gold daughters, silver sons.) I would expect all chicks to show black single lacing on the silver or gold ground color. The "silver" males may look yellowish as they grow, and may get red leakage. For the "gold" females, there is a chance of them being bright gold or even red, but I think lemon or cream color is more likely from that cross.

Egg colors with Owlbeard rooster should be almost the same as egg color with Amberlink rooster, but with a bit less brown in each case.