Ameraucunas still not laying

[sugarbush]

Do you get 100% true breeding out of birds you have bred and raised or are you getting it out of birds you bought? With lots of work I absolutely agree that you can have 100% true breeding in your own stock and I give kudos for the hard work.

Does not change the fact that APA standard states that they only have to breed 50% true. I can order 100 Easter Eggers from a hatchery and within 4-5 generations have Americaunas that conform to the APA standards. It does not change the fact that I got them from EE stock.

I can respect the breed if you are getting 100% conformation. For me though anything less than 100% makes it an Easter Egger. I think the APA should require that they breed true...That is all I am saying.

I had a look at some of your birds on your website and they look good

 

[Tailfeathers]

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I bought all my birds from Paul Smith who got his original start from Wayne Meredith and then some from Barbara Campbell. Barbara got her original Blue Wheatens from Wayne too. I've been told that almost all good Blue Wheatens can be traced back to Wayne.

Here are the WBS Ameraucana genetics:

Wheaten x Wheaten = 100% Wheaten
Wheaten x Blue Wheaten = 50% Wheaten & 50% Blue Wheaten
Wheaten x Splash Wheaten = 100% Blue Wheaten
Blue Wheaten x Blue Wheaten= 50% Blue Wheaten, 25% Wheaten, 25% Splash Wheaten
Splash Wheaten x Splash Wheaten = 100& Splash Wheaten
Splash Wheaten x Blue Wheaten = 50% Splash Wheaten & 50% Blue Wheaten

I have not seen anything in the APA that states the standard states a breed only has to breed true 50% of the time.

Thank you for the compliment. I'm working hard on my WBS Ameraucanas and they are getting almost my total focus this year. I'll give some to my Welsummers but mostly I'll work them more next year with the Barnevelders I'm getting.

God Bless,

 

[cicene mete]

If I could weigh in from the peanut gallery. I think part of the problem is that for those of us who are not trying to breed to a specific standard, the term "Easter egger" seems like an insult. It is a description, not a name, and it is kind of a dumb description at that. If there were a different name, I think it would be easier to take, but my birds are beautiful, and when someone asks me what kind of birds I have, it feels stupid to say, "well, those are Buff Orpington's, and those are Rhode Island Reds, and those are Easter Eggers."

At the same time, I understand why those people who do devote a lot of time trying to breed to a specific standard get annoyed when people like me refer to our birds is Ameraucanas. I think we should come up with a different name, then maybe both sides would be happy. I recommend "South American Bearded Procrastinators."

 

[Tailfeathers]

I'm not sure why anyone would think that the term Easter Egger is a bad thing. It simply is a reference to the fact that those birds are well-known for laying multi-colored eggs.

I think I said it before but I'll say it again, there is absolutely nothing wrong with having Easter Eggers. Heck, I still have one myself and will be having more this year as I breed the one I've got to my four different Ameraucanas in an attempt to develop a tri-colored Wheaten like those of the Marans.

If you have Easter Eggers and you like them, that's terrific. Enjoy them all you can. I just ask that you not advertise them as Ameraucanas and mislead others.

God Bless,

 

[cicene mete]

Well, at least I tried. I have to tell you that my birds have taken a vote, and they decided that "Easter egger" is condescending and stupid, and they will no longer respond to it! They insist that they are more than the eggs they produce, and besides, they are of a different faith. I tried to reason with them, but it was their choice, after all. They are still open to suggestions. Anyone else want to try to pick a proper, proper name?

 

[Tailfeathers]

LOL!

Good Luck. Let me know what you come up with!

God Bless,

 

[sugarbush]

Here if a quote from ABC website.

The Ameraucana Breeders Club defines an Easter Egg Chicken or Easter Egger as any chicken that possesses the blue egg gene, but doesn’t fully meet any breed description as defined in the APA and/or ABA standards. Further, even if a bird meets a standard breed description, but doesn’t meet a variety description or breed true at least 50% of the time it is considered an Easter Egg chicken.

I don't mine the term Easter Egger, I use it all the time and just explain that they are decendants of Araucana, but don't meet the breed standards.​

 

[Guitartists]

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Hahahahaha That sounds about right!!!!

But I must say... my EE is laying nicely now and I am getting NO eggs yet from my Ameraucana girls hatched the same time

Some folks call them Rainbow layers

 

[chickenfever]

sugarbush, I just have to say that the whole time I was reading this post it bugged me that you couldn't even spell Ameraucana correctly, you spell it Americauna. If you are trying to make a point about a breed, at least get the spelling correct.

 

[sugarbush]

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spell check will do that to ya.