Ancona with possible neurological issues

[casportpony]

Do ducks really poop on walls?

They do.

 

[casportpony]

Did you see how slow she was moving in the video? If she goes any faster she falls over and starts her circling thing. I don't think putting her out entirely is wise, but I might move her crate out there. She needs the walls so she can stay upright.

She looks way too ataxic to be anywhere but the crate.

 

[lena_]

Okay, I'll add my serious opinion on this now.
I don't think it is food related. I, like you don't have the money to buy food that is made especially for ducks, and for around ten years now, our ducks and chickens have had the exact same diet (one cup layer pellets ,one cup kibbled corn,and one cup barley,maize and molasses twice a day for both ducks and chickens), plus free ranging all day. I've never had any neurological or feed related issues aside from eating toxic/fermented things (We actually had a styrofoam box that we were storing plastic plant pots in, and within a week the chickens and ducks had eaten the entire thing)

The symptoms that you have described do sound an awful lot like symptoms of heavy metal poisoning, and unfortunately the only thing I can suggest is take her to a veterinarian. However this will be very expensive. My friend's Peacock Snowy ate three rusty nails, showed heavy metal poisoning symptoms, she took him to the vet, got him X-rayed and the vet said surgery was the only option. She ended up depending $400+ dollars on Snowy's veterinary treatment.

If it is heavy metal poisoning, I am unsure of any way she could live a long, normal duck life if she keeps showing these symptoms. The only thing I can suggest is to take her to a vet.
Keep us posted on how she's doing.
-Feather

 

[BantyChooks]

Hmmm, I missed this post. I wonder if she as a bacterial infection? Keep an eye on her poop for sure.

Doesn't look like she's been eating much at all. Crop is empty, no more poo since then. How could I have missed that? I'll keep an eye on her weight to see if I'm going to have to tube her.

She looks way too ataxic to be anywhere but the crate.

I think she actually likes the support it gives, she's leaning on the walls. I'm going to move her out tomorrow but keep her in the crate. I can't have a duck in the house at the moment and I am sure she'd appreciate some familiar surroundings.

Okay, I'll add my serious opinion on this now.
I don't think it is food related. I, like you don't have the money to buy food that is made especially for ducks, and for around ten years now, our ducks and chickens have had the exact same diet (one cup layer pellets ,one cup kibbled corn,and one cup barley,maize and molasses twice a day for both ducks and chickens), plus free ranging all day. I've never had any neurological or feed related issues aside from eating toxic/fermented things (We actually had a styrofoam box that we were storing plastic plant pots in, and within a week the chickens and ducks had eaten the entire thing)

The symptoms that you have described do sound an awful lot like symptoms of heavy metal poisoning, and unfortunately the only thing I can suggest is take her to a veterinarian. However this will be very expensive. My friend's Peacock Snowy ate three rusty nails, showed heavy metal poisoning symptoms, she took him to the vet, got him X-rayed and the vet said surgery was the only option. She ended up depending $400+ dollars on Snowy's veterinary treatment.

If it is heavy metal poisoning, I am unsure of any way she could live a long, normal duck life if she keeps showing these symptoms. The only thing I can suggest is to take her to a vet.
Keep us posted on how she's doing.
-Feather

Thank you. Unfortunately, I love my ducks, but the vet isn't an option. I gave her nutridrench today and we will see what happens tomorrow.

Kathy, is giving a flush when she isn't eating okay? Also, could I give her a B12 supplement for humans? Nutridrench doesn't have that.

 

[casportpony]

Kathy, is giving a flush when she isn't eating okay? Also, could I give her a B12 supplement for humans? Nutridrench doesn't have that.

If I did my math correctly, I think you can give her 1000 micrograms (2 grams) daily. This is based on the liquid b12 for poultry that Rooster Booster make. The label says give 1-3 ml and that each ounce = 10,000 micrograms.
10000 ug / 30 ml = 333 ug/ml x 3 = 1000 ug.

Please double check my math.

Edited to add:
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_librar...182d53-bcee-47eb-87b3-e5f9d5f32ea6&showText=1
Liquid B-12 Plus Vitamin K
Rooster Booster

Super concentrated 10,000 mcg. of pure B-12 per ounce in a very palatable base.

Premium Vitamin Supplement for all classes of poultry

Net contents 1 Pint (480cc) U.S.

DIRECTIONS FOR USE: 1cc-3cc of B12 Liquid may be mixed in feed or given orally with a dose syringe daily. If preferred, mix 1 oz of B12 Liquid per gallon of water.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Each fluid ounce contains:
Vitamin B-12 ………... 10,000 mcg
Menadione (Vitamin K) ….. 0.1 mg

Ingredients: Water, Vitamin B-12 supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K), Sodium Benzoate (a preservative), Potassium Sorbate (a preservative), Sodium Saccharin, Xanthan Gum, artificial flavoring and artificial coloring.

SHAKE WELL BEFORE USING

 

[shawluvsbirds]

If I did my math correctly, I think you can give her 2000 micrograms (2 grams) daily. This is based on the liquid b12 for poultry that Rooster Booster make. The label says give 1-3 ml and that each ounce = 10,000 micrograms.
10000 ug / 15 ml = 666 ug/ml x 3 = 2000 ug.

Please double check my math.

Edited to add:
Liquid B-12 Plus Vitamin K
Rooster Booster

Super concentrated 10,000 mcg. of pure B-12 per ounce in a very palatable base.

Premium Vitamin Supplement for all classes of poultry

Net contents 1 Pint (480cc) U.S.

DIRECTIONS FOR USE: 1cc-3cc of B12 Liquid may be mixed in feed or given orally with a dose syringe daily. If preferred, mix 1 oz of B12 Liquid per gallon of water.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Each fluid ounce contains:
Vitamin B-12 ………... 10,000 mcg
Menadione (Vitamin K) ….. 0.1 mg

Ingredients: Water, Vitamin B-12 supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K), Sodium Benzoate (a preservative), Potassium Sorbate (a preservative), Sodium Saccharin, Xanthan Gum, artificial flavoring and artificial coloring.

SHAKE WELL BEFORE USING

could she just use something like this from a pharmacy or Wal-Mart? It might easier to get a hold of. ?

 

[casportpony]

No, because I can't afford paying $20 a bag for all flock. I feed layer, my neighbours feed layer, my friends feed layer, all the ducks have lived perfectly good and lengthy lives, and I see no reason to change unless there's a really, really good reason.
I'm still not convinced that what Flippy has is connected to feed at all, but if it turns out that it is and she responds to calcium, then I will re-think what I am doing.

Mine get el cheapo generic chicken lay pellets too.

 

[casportpony]

could she just use something like this from a pharmacy or Wal-Mart? It might easier to get a hold of. ?

Of course, I just mentioned the other stuff because she was asking if she could give human b12. The answer is yes, human b12 and a complex are fine.

 

[Kiki]

They do.

 

[Kiki]

And circumstances. I've spent six years cleaning up this place and it still has enough metal scraps to make braces for a giant and his extended family five times over. Maybe I should hold out a magnet and see if she's dragged over to it, lol.