Anybody have any pics of chocolate or dun colored chickens,dun sumatra

Can you tell Chocolate from Dun when they are grown? I have Serama's from Jerry and I am getting brown colored chicks but I don't know if they are dun or chocolate and I can't seem to find anyone who can tell me or show me photo's to tell the difference. I have a young rooster that was a chocolate looking down color but now, he's nearly black feathered and a pullet that was a lighter version of that and she's a beautiful pale coco color, no red tones.
 
I'm still trying to find a single khaki or dun Serama so I'd know what I'm looking at. The weird thing is that one of my rooster chicks was the typical down color for chocolate but he is feathering out looking black and another (a pullet) is feathering out the palest tan and no one seems to want to try to identify her color or his for sure. I'm keeping both of these young ones to see what they produce so maybe that will give a clue.
 
i love this guys (Bob Follows)UK red orp roo and hen
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I'm sure someone is out there breeding the Chocolate color and they are laying very low until they get something they can start selling to the public and making lots of $$$$
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Here is her hatch mate, a young cockerel that looked like what I've found in chocolate chick down photo's

In chick down
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As he began feathering out, he looks black but his chick down was not right for a black chick. He does have some brown tones now but also some green sheen to a couple tail feathers too. What color is he?

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Are those from Jerry? I don't believe many serama breeders are breeding toward any particular color. The result of that is a mess of variations. I believe Jerry is breeding for chocolate but, I don't believe, those are 100% stable. I may be wrong. So, it is my belief that your chicks may be carrying chocolate among other things. Cho is recessive so I don't know how that would appear with other genes
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