Anyone else taking the KLOVE challenge?

[Capvin]

This is really a bad day because for the first (and hopefully the last) I have to agree with Royd. I can listen all day to the Edward Hawkins Singers doing their gospel songs, but it is truly torture listening to what passes as modern Christian music. Again, it can take the place of waterboarding. As for the comment that it is better then them being on the corner selling crack....I will pass.+

 

[eenie114]

Quote:
Wow, do you EVER have anything positive to say?

I would like to know how you know that Christian artists are only hoping to make the next big hit. Do you know any personally? Do you know them ALL personally? I didn't think so...

Well, let's just look at the numbers. It took hundreds of years to write the 4 or 500 hymns, which are in most main stream Christian hymnals....In the last 30 years, how many thousands have been cranked out. There is no serious thought going into the writing of the notes, and as I said, as long as there is a homogenous mix of the proper catch words and phrases, it gets thrown into the market.
I go to church, on occasion, and I can tell you that trying to sing some of the modern songs do not lend themselves to hymnal type singing.

I'm not trying to trash the thread. I'm simply making an observation. That is the problem, today, which was mentioned in another thread. We can no longer call a spade a spade, without having some kind of label put on us.

Or perhaps there are more people writing them now than there were 100 years ago? Or perhaps the songs are shorter and therefore faster to write? Have you thought of the fact that for many Christian artists, songwriting and recording is their full-time job? So they write more songs faster than the songwriting hobbyists of the 17th Century. Also, some bands (Newsboys comes to mind) have been performing for nearly the entire thirty years you mentioned.
Sorry, but there really isn't a way for you to prove your point without interviewing every single Christian artist out there, and getting them to admit to your theory.
But you are still entitled to your opinion, as we are to ours. But please quit raining on the OP's parade... She didn't do anything that could reasonably offend anybody.

 

[itsy]

Hey hey now. Royd is still entitled to his opinion, just like anyone else is. I don't think he was raining on her parade. He didn't call her names. He didn't laugh at her. He didn't insult all of Christian music. He wasn't being nasty about it.

Tanichca - I'm going to check out Nightwish and the other two.... I've never heard of them and I might like them. ty.

 

[EmtheFishLady]

Quote:
And this is where I really show my age...I saw Nickelback in concert a few times. Nickelback, Disturbed, Rob Zombie, Godsmack...God I'm old.

 

[Tanichca]

Quote:
Eh, he's just being a bit dour and disapproving.


Listen to the OLD Nightwish... the new Nightwish with the new singer is horrible!! I suggest Nemo, Meadows of Heaven, and Escapist. From the other two, Utopia and Faster are the best from Within Temptation, and Design your Universe from Epica is pretty cool.

 

[WriterofWords]

Good grief people! Leave them alone! You wonder why young people follow the herd? It's because of people who have to get mean and nasty and just plain rude because someone wants to take a challenge to them that means something. It's really hard to stand up in the face of such an onslaught of negativity because YOU choose not to believe or think the way they do.
If you have nothing nice to say, or be supportive, or accept this challenge,, then move along and keep your snide little comments to yourselves. It takes a lot of guts to even post that challenge let alone deal with supposed adults who are going to do their best to tear them down because they feel differently.
Leave them alone and move along.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

Well, let's just look at the numbers. It took hundreds of years to write the 4 or 500 hymns, which are in most main stream Christian hymnals....In the last 30 years, how many thousands have been cranked out. There is no serious thought going into the writing of the notes, and as I said, as long as there is a homogenous mix of the proper catch words and phrases, it gets thrown into the market.

Have to disagree with the way the argument is set up there Royd, as the above is very skewed. There were tons and tons of hyms written throughout history...it's just that most didn't have any lasting power. It's the same with movies and books. I often get depressed at how bad they've gotten, but then realize that all the great, old movies/books I enjoy...are a very small percentage of the work from the time. Not every movie was a masterpiece, and not every hym was a masterpiece. Time has allowed the crystalization of some classics. That said, there are definitely more commercial pressures these days. There was one interesting study that backed what I felt I was seeing, a trend in modern music becoming more narcissistic/centered on the self in the lyrics. "Oh boy, you need to love me, one day you'll see how great I am..." and so on.​

 

[Royd]

Quote:
Have to disagree with the way the argument is set up there Royd, as the above is very skewed. There were tons and tons of hyms written throughout history...it's just that most didn't have any lasting power. It's the same with movies and books. I often get depressed at how bad they've gotten, but then realize that all the great, old movies/books I enjoy...are a very small percentage of the work from the time. Not every movie was a masterpiece, and not every hym was a masterpiece. Time has allowed the crystalization of some classics. That said, there are definitely more commercial pressures these days. There was one interesting study that backed what I felt I was seeing, a trend in modern music becoming more narcissistic/centered on the self in the lyrics. "Oh boy, you need to love me, one day you'll see how great I am..." and so on.

I have no doubt that some young plebe thought that he could outwrite the Master Monk, but it never made it past the abbey fireplace....Sadly, we are the ones who have to listen to this pablum, just for a few that rise to the point of a Christian hymnal....Honestly, the last one which really sticks in my mind is probably 20 years old...El Shaddai.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

Haha, true. Now that fireplace is every radio station and tv ad.

 

[SourRoses]

Oh boy.

Let me just say, that if you think modern Christian music is so limited, perhaps you have limited your experience of it?

For the idea that Christian music is commercialized and naught else.... I present just one example of very many I hear on Christian radio often.

Laura Story - "Blessings"

Story - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDiTuSLSJB8&feature=related

Song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CSVqHcdhXQ&feature=related


Commercialized?