My golden retriever cocker spaniel is amazing. Didn’t bark until introduced to one that did, he’s energetic but not psycho, about 30 pounds, and is sweet unless someone is in my house besides me or my family. Then he’ll attack. The one exception is the dog sitters.
 
Most of those need regular haircuts. Groomers aren't cheap either. So is coat care a consideration?

I hadn't even considered that tbh haha good point. Maybe those are out then.

We had them in apartments until we moved to our house. I wouldn’t say ours are big barkers. They will bark to let you know someone is at the door or if there’s something in the backyard, but you can train that out of them if you want. I haven’t, though, because I actually like knowing that no one is ever going to sneak into my house without raising a 4-dog alarm. All that being said, though, a rescue dog might the way to go rather than looking for a particular breed. If you adopt one that’s been fostered, you’ll know what it’s good and bad habits are before making the commitment.

Thanks! They don't sound too bad then. I too would like to know when someone is in the house.

Do you think they'd be okay with cats?

My golden retriever cocker spaniel is amazing. Didn’t bark until introduced to one that did, he’s energetic but not psycho, about 30 pounds, and is sweet unless someone is in my house besides me or my family. Then he’ll attack. The one exception is the dog sitters.

He sounds great! Hadn't even thought of a spaniel or a mix
 
I hadn't even considered that tbh haha good point. Maybe those are out then.



Thanks! They don't sound too bad then. I too would like to know when someone is in the house.

Do you think they'd be okay with cats?



He sounds great! Hadn't even thought of a spaniel or a mix
The only problem is shedding.
 
I tried to browse PetFinder but the the new mobile system they installed a few months ago or more is soooo slow and terrible so I got really frustrated and gave up lol
 
So I probably won't move for a while but eventually I do want to move out and I'm noticing that a lot of places even though they may say "pet friendly" will say either cats only or have a weight limit and/or breed restrictions for dogs. I'm trying to find one that either doesn't have a weight limit or has a higher one but that seems to be nearly impossible.

Anyway, I have noticed the weight limit on most places seems to be like 25 pounds or for some it is 50 but that's harder to find.

I was hoping to get a Golden Retriever, Labrador Retriever, Australian Shepherd, or English Shepherd (more uncommon breed) but those are all obviously over the weight limit, although if it was 50, it would be easier to have those breeds cause the weight would be pretty close and I could just fudge the numbers a bit.


But anyway, just in case, I am looking for suggestions of breeds under 25 pounds and maybe under 50 pounds if I find a place that allows that. We could maybe make two lists.

I know a lot of dog breeds but for some reason I can't really think of too many atm mostly because I was so set on a retriever and tbh I hate most small, yappy dogs. Granted, I realize it is the owners who baby them and not so much the dogs but still. I also don't just want a lazy couch potato, fat dog so that makes it harder. Although any dog would be great and better than no dog.

But ideally, I want a dog that is energetic enough to go on walks or hikes and/or smart enough to be trained in obedience or tricks or something. I would love to do a sport like dock diving, agility, or nose work, but that's not a requirement. Preferably one that cares about me and cares when I'm upset and/or a cuddly dog. But living in or near a city and working, I may not have time to do all the training and everything so maybe a lazy couch potato would be best after all. Idk.

Anyway, long story short, dogs under 25 pounds and/or dogs under 50 pounds that actually act like dogs and not babies?

One of the best dogs I ever had was a Toy Manchester. He was a big dog in a small dog package. By the way, just because a dog is small doesn't meant it is yappy. I now have a chihuahua crossed with some sort of a terrier, and he isn't yappy at all.
I am hoping that I could extensively train the dog and earn it's CGC or even advanced or urban CGC and/or maybe a therapy dog certification to prove it is extremely well behaved and that maybe that would allow an exception or that if I got a puppy they would allow it to stay. It wouldn't be too hard because I love dog training and have experience.
So I probably won't move for a while but eventually I do want to move out and I'm noticing that a lot of places even though they may say "pet friendly" will say either cats only or have a weight limit and/or breed restrictions for dogs. I'm trying to find one that either doesn't have a weight limit or has a higher one but that seems to be nearly impossible.

Anyway, I have noticed the weight limit on most places seems to be like 25 pounds or for some it is 50 but that's harder to find.

I was hoping to get a Golden Retriever, Labrador Retriever, Australian Shepherd, or English Shepherd (more uncommon breed) but those are all obviously over the weight limit, although if it was 50, it would be easier to have those breeds cause the weight would be pretty close and I could just fudge the numbers a bit.

I am hoping that I could extensively train the dog and earn it's CGC or even advanced or urban CGC and/or maybe a therapy dog certification to prove it is extremely well behaved and that maybe that would allow an exception or that if I got a puppy they would allow it to stay. It wouldn't be too hard because I love dog training and have experience.

But anyway, just in case, I am looking for suggestions of breeds under 25 pounds and maybe under 50 pounds if I find a place that allows that. We could maybe make two lists.

I know a lot of dog breeds but for some reason I can't really think of too many atm mostly because I was so set on a retriever and tbh I hate most small, yappy dogs. Granted, I realize it is the owners who baby them and not so much the dogs but still. I also don't just want a lazy couch potato, fat dog so that makes it harder. Although any dog would be great and better than no dog.

But ideally, I want a dog that is energetic enough to go on walks or hikes and/or smart enough to be trained in obedience or tricks or something. I would love to do a sport like dock diving, agility, or nose work, but that's not a requirement. Preferably one that cares about me and cares when I'm upset and/or a cuddly dog. But living in or near a city and working, I may not have time to do all the training and everything so maybe a lazy couch potato would be best after all. Idk.

Anyway, long story short, dogs under 25 pounds and/or dogs under 50 pounds that actually act like dogs and not babies?

One of the best dogs I ever had was a Toy Manchester Terrier. He was a big dog in a small dog package. They aren't real common, but one might be worth looking into. These dogs are smart, trainable and I imagine they would work out well in either obedience or agility. By the way, just because a dog is small doesn't meant it is yappy. I now have a chihuahua crossed with some sort of a terrier, and he isn't yappy at all. The yappiest dog I ever had was a sheltie. Nice dog in every other way but she couldn't seem to help herself.
 
One of the best dogs I ever had was a Toy Manchester. He was a big dog in a small dog package. By the way, just because a dog is small doesn't meant it is yappy. I now have a chihuahua crossed with some sort of a terrier, and he isn't yappy at all.
I am hoping that I could extensively train the dog and earn it's CGC or even advanced or urban CGC and/or maybe a therapy dog certification to prove it is extremely well behaved and that maybe that would allow an exception or that if I got a puppy they would allow it to stay. It wouldn't be too hard because I love dog training and have experience.


One of the best dogs I ever had was a Toy Manchester Terrier. He was a big dog in a small dog package. They aren't real common, but one might be worth looking into. These dogs are smart, trainable and I imagine they would work out well in either obedience or agility. By the way, just because a dog is small doesn't meant it is yappy. I now have a chihuahua crossed with some sort of a terrier, and he isn't yappy at all. The yappiest dog I ever had was a sheltie. Nice dog in every other way but she couldn't seem to help herself.

Wow I never even considered that dog before but it sounds like a great dog!! I'm going to need to look into it.

And that's true, you're right that not all small dogs are yappy, and I am sorry to have implied that. I think I've just had very limited experience with small dogs and the experiences I have had have been tainted by bad owners who either let the dogs yap or be aggressive so I think I just unfairly judge small dogs now. In reality it's probably the owner. Example: today I saw a Chihuahua or Chihuahua mix freak out and lunge and bark and snarl at another dog walking by and owner just picks him up and starts petting him and/or holding him tightly. That's not helping. And there's some vicious Chihuahuas in my brother's neighborhood. So those have been my experiences but it's not fair because I know Chihuahuas can be amazing little dogs. My friend from colleges grandparents had one and he was great.
 
What you have to watch for is the breed restrictions. This is based on insurance. Lots of insurance companies have a list that they won't insure people if they have that breed on the property. It depends on where you live. Here, AllState won't insure me because I have German Shepherds and State Farm doesn't have a list, so I am with them.

Smaller breeds? They have different size golden doodles, shelties, pugs, and a ton of mixed breeds at the shelters that fit the Bill.
 
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