Araucana + austrolorp = Ameraucana?

[TexasSam]

When you mix a araucana with a austrolorp do you essentially have a Ameraucana or is it a little more than that

 

[sourland]

You will have an Easter Egger. Ameraucana are true breeding birds with specific breed characteristics.

 

[Lazy Farmer]

You will have an Easter Egger. Ameraucana are true breeding birds with specific breed characteristics.

 

[FowlStuff]

...more than that, although I did use LF Australorp pullets to create the original LF black Ameraucanas a few decades ago.
http://ameraucanaalliance.org/faq.html#Two

 

[TexasSam]

...more than that, although I did use LF Australorp pullets to create the original LF black Ameraucanas a few decades ago.
http://ameraucanaalliance.org/faq.html#Two

This is what I am wondering if what I have read and understand they used araucana and austrolorp to create Ameraucana. Is this correct

 

[FowlStuff]

No tufted-rumpless fowl were used to create any of the eight recognized varieties of Ameraucanas. Ameraucanas weren’t bred up from Araucanas and Araucanas weren’t bred up from Ameraucanas. Both were created from Easter Eggers. Both breeds have specific requirements with regard to shape, weights, coloring, comb, earlobes, and so on. While it is true that commercial hatcheries continue to cash in on crossbred Easter Egger mongrels by advertising them as Araucanas or Ameraucanas, it takes much more than eggshell color to make a true breed.

 

[Lady of McCamley]

It is not uncommon for a breeder to breed into their line traits borrowed from another breed.

However, it has to be done carefully, choosing the right refresher breed, then bred back to the original line keeping the new traits added to the standard traits.

It isn't like you breed an Araucana to an Australorp and immediately get a black Ameraucana.

Ameraucana were developed from Araucana (literally American Araucana...Ameraucana), but more went into it. EDITED TO ADD: Araucana as in the term used to call all Chilean birds that carried blue genes and were imported from South America...of those some had tufts/rumpless, some were tailed/bearded....they were a motley crew and from that diverged Araucana and Ameraucana....to my understanding.

You have to have the beard/muff, comb, leg color, body type, egg shell color (blue), as well as breeding true.

It takes a number of generations of birds to perfect.

LofMc

 

[TexasSam]

http://ameraucanabreedersclub.org/history.html
I was reading here and on a different page that mentioned austrolorp so this gave me some questions

 

[FowlStuff]

That early history of the Ameraucana breed and our club was written by Richard Orr, from Connecticut. He visited my place years ago when one of our Ameraucana National Meets was here in Michigan.
Richard made a few minor corrections to his article and sent the updated version to me a couple years ago.
http://ameraucanaalliance.org/DnLd/Early History by Richard Orr.pdf

 

[TexasSam]

That early history of the Ameraucana breed and our club was written by Richard Orr, from Connecticut. He visited my place years ago when one of our Ameraucana National Meets was here in Michigan.
Richard made a few minor corrections to his article and sent the updated version to me a couple years ago.
http://ameraucanaalliance.org/DnLd/Early History by Richard Orr.pdf

I'm a big fan of the breed and I'm trying to learn as much as I can about them. I have 5. One black rooster 2 black pullets and 2 self/blue pullets. I learn a lot from them but I also read what I can find I will read this tomorrow thanks.