Araucana thread anyone?

[Stacykins]

Mixed a Wheaten Maran hen with a BBR Araucana Roo. Hatched out one of their eggs and now these are the first two eggs from their chick. The eggs are an ugly brownish color. Can not wait to hatch a few out to see what kind of chick come out. I am thinking about breeding the pullet to a white roo and a BBR to see what comes out.


These are the parents:

Whoops, didn't read the part where Mom was a marans doh

 

[Illia]

Looks like Olive Egger eggs to me.

They're neat in my opinion, but don't worry, work with the second, third generations and you'll get it a nice pretty green or whatever color you want.

The weird brown dominating over green is likely from the Araucana possibly not carrying the best blue egg genetics. As I wrote in the OE thread, a very floppy or folded comb or tall one are signs of not the best blue egg. My first Olive Egger pullet, Araucana based and accidental, lays eggs just like yours. (but varied by day) My Wheaten Am based OE pullets lay a more greenish tinted one though. Imagine adding just a dash of teal tint to those eggs. (and, for random days, washing out the brown to leave blue eggs speckled or smeared with brown bits)

 

[shanshan51]

Did anyone see my older post? Can you help with if these are wild type, silver or gold duckwing?

Wow that is helpful but I am still confused on what I have.....I took these pics at lunch. It was pouring rain so excuse the poor lighting.

These are two chicks from the Roo and hens I purchased from you. Not sure which came from which hen because at that time I was just learning what each hens egg looked like all being slightly diff. The second chick is actually much lighter in person. More creme in color.

Top View Wing


Chick # 2 Top View Chick # 2 Wing

Chick # 2 Side View

 

[Illia]

Yep and I replied too. The top one looks pretty good, the bottom one is questionable, but otherwise best to wait til they mature and see how they color out, but always keep in mind what their down color looked like. The bolder, more unbroken stripes the better, the paler the more Wheaten. As they mature watch out for females with pale breasts, or any other genes floating around such as too much black on females, unwanted red or white on males breasts, too much white uncoat as mentioned by Lanae which is indeed common in Wheatens, etc.

 

[shanshan51]

Yep and I replied too. The top one looks pretty good, the bottom one is questionable, but otherwise best to wait til they mature and see how they color out, but always keep in mind what their down color looked like. The bolder, more unbroken stripes the better, the paler the more Wheaten. As they mature watch out for females with pale breasts, or any other genes floating around such as too much black on females, unwanted red or white on males breasts, too much white uncoat as mentioned by Lanae which is indeed common in Wheatens, etc.

Ok then for the top one the stripe is stronger and less broken so that is better right? So that is most likely Duckwing?

They have not gotten any feathers really on their breasts yet. Just trying to recognize the actual colors I have here.

Oh and thank you by the way!

 

[cashdl]

They are both duckwing, the question is actually wether they are silver or gold duckwing. Duckwings in araucana are based on wild type. They both appear to be silver duckwing to me although it is hard to tell with pictures. Although one persons silver is another persons gold.

Here are a few photos that will hopefully either show the difference or add to the confusion

Black Breasted Red female ( wild type)

Golden duckwing female

Silver Duckwing

There is not a huge difference between the silver duckwing and the gold duckwing. It is a shade difference. The standard for araucana call for

Gold Duckwing hens - Breast: rich salmon shading to steel gray at thighs, body and stern: steel grey, back: dark gray, wings: dark grey finely stippled with steel gray, the steel gray predominating with dark brown primaries

Silver Duckwing Hens - Breast: salmon shading to light ashy gray at thighs, Body and stern: light ashy gray, back : medium gray, wings: medium gray finely stippled with lt. ashy gray, light ashy gray predominating, primaries are black.

Notice the subtle differences.

Lanae

 

[shanshan51]

They are both duckwing, the question is actually wether they are silver or gold duckwing. Duckwings in araucana are based on wild type. They both appear to be silver duckwing to me although it is hard to tell with pictures. Although one persons silver is another persons gold.

Here are a few photos that will hopefully either show the difference or add to the confusion

Black Breasted Red female ( wild type)

Golden duckwing female

Silver Duckwing

There is not a huge difference between the silver duckwing and the gold duckwing. It is a shade difference. The standard for araucana call for

Gold Duckwing hens - Breast: rich salmon shading to steel gray at thighs, body and stern: steel grey, back: dark gray, wings: dark grey finely stippled with steel gray, the steel gray predominating with dark brown primaries

Silver Duckwing Hens - Breast: salmon shading to light ashy gray at thighs, Body and stern: light ashy gray, back : medium gray, wings: medium gray finely stippled with lt. ashy gray, light ashy gray predominating, primaries are black.

Notice the subtle differences.

Lanae

That does help!!! Thank you. I don't know which of the colors they are between the duckwing but now I see what I have

 

[nivtup]

My thoughts are to cross to Wheaten Ameraucanas.

Yes, there are issues with leg and skin color, but it is a blue egg layer, and they are available to work with.

Then again, tails, rumplessness, beards vs. tufts, it will be a good project to take on as a challenge.

Wuss! just kidding. LOL!

I was sent an old link on genetics and these pics were in it. I am talking conversing with Walt about the BBR in Araucana and I am getting clarification. The standard of perfection calls for the BBR to be same as described for the Cubalaya which is a wheaten coloration, but Walt says there are no wheaten Black Breasted Reds, so my question is how do you get the coloration of the cubalaya without wheaten, because wild type gives you the look of the old english game black breasted red.

He will get back to me with clarification.

Lanae

 

[syble]

Maybe i was mistaken? is that a tuft on the left? i couldn't see any kind of a nubbin, but this chick was not impressed with me poking about lol

 

[cashdl]

Looks like you have a tufts Syble. Yippee! There is not usually a nub there to feel at least in my experience. Only on the hugely tufted ones.

Lanae