Auto Bailout.......

[ChickenTender63]

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Ah, I don't believe they have $20,000 in profit per truck. If they did, they wouldn't have the problems they have. Most of their profits that they could have are being eaten up with high salaries, longterm health care benefits, record viagra usage, etc.

No matter how this is solved, it's going to hurt a lot of people for a long, long time. Many of these people are innocent victims that are only guilty of accepting a job that would provide their families with a very good salary and benefits. My opinion is that most of the blame needs to go back to the top management and also the unions. These people have been severly misled for a long time now.

Since this could have a major impact on big oil, why don't we have congress suggest that the windfall profits from the last two quarters fund the big 3 auto survival. The profits from the last two quarters is more than the 25 billion they are saying they need.

 

[I have WHAT in my yard?]

I am going to say this even though I'll either get slammed or thrown off:

I am not a Christian. But, I believe in the general principles, so I am confused when a group of people who frequently talk about their beliefs are so angry that they are willing to condemn so many over their anger at so few.

This is about more than just the auto industry.

I live my life by principles which include the idea that it is better to feed 99 undeserving people than let one deserving person starve. It is not my job to determine who is deserving and who is not, it is my job to help as many people in this life as I can.

We are so focused on somebody getting over on us that we are turning on each other.

If some one told you you could make 10 million dollars today. Legally. And keep your job. But thirty of the other people on BYC would lose their houses, would you do it?


Whaty if thirty people you didn't know and never would see would suffer? Could you turn down that chance to make that money?

That's what people were faced with. Many were being told by their bosses and co-workers to do things that they suspected were unethical and would cause problems, but they succumbed to greed and pressure.

Many, many innocent people will suffer. Many innocent people ARE suffering.

Let you without sin throw the first stone.

 

[HennysMom]

ChickenTender63 Since this could have a major impact on big oil, why don't we have congress suggest that the windfall profits from the last two quarters fund the big 3 auto survival. The profits from the last two quarters is more than the 25 billion they are saying they need.

HERE HERE!

its amazing you know - I have a friend that drives diesel trucks - he began making his own biodiel - for a whopping .75 per gallon!

Now..I ask you - if after initial start up costs of about $500.00 - and he gets ALL of his oil for free via restaurants and just screens it down... he can run all his farm equipment and his vehicles on this - why oh why cant the regular industry?

Bottom line - they can! They just charge $5.00 for bio-diesel because we LET THEM!

All fuels are being majorily hiked - all petrolums are too costly when in oil rich nations we truck in from they are paying less than .62 cents per gallon for the same fuels we truck into our own country!

Monopoly at its best... as Marie Antoinette said.. "LET THEM EAT CAKE" ...(okay..well allegedly said LOL)

 

[cubalaya]

i had a jeep that was costing me over a hundred dollars a week in gas to go to work. i traded for a kia and cut the gas bill to sixty dollars. then gas went to four dollars a gallon. so i quit my job to look for a job closer to home. now gas is $1.54 and no one is hiring. how about the government stop bailouts and bring some of our jobs back from china.

 

[ChickenTender63]

I don't know why you think you are going to get slammed, there is a lot of truth to what you have said. And like what I said earlier, there is no easy solution, and there are going to be a lot of innocent people hurt no matter which solution we decide to take.

 

[wendy]

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Ah, I don't believe they have $20,000 in profit per truck. If they did, they wouldn't have the problems they have. Most of their profits that they could have are being eaten up with high salaries, longterm health care benefits, record viagra usage, etc.

No matter how this is solved, it's going to hurt a lot of people for a long, long time. Many of these people are innocent victims that are only guilty of accepting a job that would provide their families with a very good salary and benefits. My opinion is that most of the blame needs to go back to the top management and also the unions. These people have been severly misled for a long time now.

Since this could have a major impact on big oil, why don't we have congress suggest that the windfall profits from the last two quarters fund the big 3 auto survival. The profits from the last two quarters is more than the 25 billion they are saying they need.

my dh works offshore, they told him in a meeting on the rig he is on that they are already starting to stack rigs off the coast of Tx with these low gas prices. I feel no job is going to be safe.
I posted this somewhere on on of these threads. So sorry if some have already read it.

 

[wendy]

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I second that about china

 

[cubalaya]

yes, on china, how can we compete with slave labor. the products they produce have poisoned our kids and animals. lets make our own products. manufacturing is what made this country great. i fear our government has sold us out.

 

[HennysMom]

well my vehicles are: Ford F250 (gets parked most of the time due to gas prices) - Dodge Intrepid (gets 28 mpg constantly and is almost 9 years old) and our most recent is my dad's Honda Civic Hybrid that we got when he passed away. Hubby drives this most of the time because it gets a consistent 45-47 mpg

but he switches between the Intrepid and the Honda.

So I'm a mixed breed on vehicles (sort of like my chickens which I thought were RIR's

)- oh and we have a 69 Dodge Charger but it doesnt get driven. that thing only gets 8 mpg at best.

I was flipping out when it cost $140.00 to fill my truck up. We bought it knowing it was a costly vehicle, but we also needed a truck to haul and needed that rating as we own an RV (which now remains parked for the most part due to gas prices/economy)

 

[mikeksfarmer]

Hi everyone I want to give my two cents worth here. I work to set up scientific research studies for big pharma firms. I am thinking we need a plan. Not a shoot from the hip plan that will change as soon as its passed. What the hell is wrong with all these people running our country and our huge corporations. Any one spending large amounts of money should be required to have a "protocol" that spells out exactly the expected outcomes and the exact steps to achive this. There should be measurables along the way. There should also be stipulations, ie any bank getting bail out bucks is required to provide 10 steps of assistance before any forclosure procedings could happen. Any bank getting bail out bucks can not give out bonus money what so ever. These processes should have monitorning devices along the way to prove that the path is the correct one. Elected or hired these people work for us. I am so tired of no one having a plan A much less a Plan B. If plan A does not work this is how we are gong to find out, before we spend all the money. If step one is successful we will procede to step two. If one fails we move to plan B and that intails these actions. I am so discusted with Americas Limp noodle congress I cant even experess it in words. They seem to think they are at some college fraturnity party on daddys dollars. America needs a fully accountable plan keep congress at the till espeshally now. I am way tired of congress being above the law. I think its time for every elected offical and hired CEO to live by a higher standard and not Higher money. Its not about fireing its about Requireing. Every one of us need to hold these people accountable with our buisness practices and our votes. Have a nice day!