Avian influenza found in South Carolina

[Folly's place]

And today a flock in Jackson County, Michigan found with AI.
Mary

 

[TooCheep]

An interesting data item. It is hard to research because many of the links are now dead. Over a decade ago, Chinese researchers found a promising potential treatment for bird flu infections.

Anti-malaria drug chloroquine is highly effective in treating avian influenza A H5N1 virus infection in an animal model

It is curious that this same drug was demonized and suppressed for use as a Covid treatment.

 

[DLA]

Regarding bird flu and people, I think it would be beneficial to read this article thru to the end. It's lengthy but informative.

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmal...p?r=1uogyb&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

 

[TooCheep]

Sigh... I don't consider this proven, but the linked article provides evidence that the current avian influenza (H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b) may have originated in a USDA Poultry Research Lab in Georgia and another research lab in the Netherlands. I think it only fair that this be on people's radar at this point. There are known gain-of-function researchers involved.

A couple of key quotes:

• Laboratory leaks are far more common than one may realize from news reporting. Since 2001, there have been 309 confirmed and reported lab-acquired infections globally, with a vast majority (78.6%) occurring in the U.S.
• Conclusion: The proximal origins of highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1 Clade 2.3.4.4b may be the USDA Southeast Poultry Research Laboratory (SEPRL) in Athens, Georgia and the Erasmus Medical Centre in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. Genetic evidence and historical context suggest that laboratory activities, including serial passage and GOF research, could have contributed to the emergence of H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b. However, causation has not been established, and further investigation is urgently needed to confirm these findings and to identify all H5N1 laboratory leaks that may have occurred with a focus on mallard ducks and other migratory waterfowl, which have the potential to infect a large number of poultry and livestock facilities around the world. A moratorium on GOF research including serial passage of H5N1 is indicated to prevent a man-made influenza pandemic affecting animals and humans.
  

 

[DLA]

Sigh... I don't consider this proven, but the linked article provides evidence that the current avian influenza (H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b) may have originated in a USDA Poultry Research Lab in Georgia and another research lab in the Netherlands. I think it only fair that this be on people's radar at this point. There are known gain-of-function researchers involved.

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A couple of key quotes:

• Laboratory leaks are far more common than one may realize from news reporting. Since 2001, there have been 309 confirmed and reported lab-acquired infections globally, with a vast majority (78.6%) occurring in the U.S.
• Conclusion: The proximal origins of highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1 Clade 2.3.4.4b may be the USDA Southeast Poultry Research Laboratory (SEPRL) in Athens, Georgia and the Erasmus Medical Centre in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. Genetic evidence and historical context suggest that laboratory activities, including serial passage and GOF research, could have contributed to the emergence of H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b. However, causation has not been established, and further investigation is urgently needed to confirm these findings and to identify all H5N1 laboratory leaks that may have occurred with a focus on mallard ducks and other migratory waterfowl, which have the potential to infect a large number of poultry and livestock facilities around the world. A moratorium on GOF research including serial passage of H5N1 is indicated to prevent a man-made influenza pandemic affecting animals and humans.

Regarding that article you linked - you may want to also read this.

https://www.malone.news/p/is-the-cu...e&isFreemail=true&r=1uogyb&triedRedirect=true

 

[TooCheep]

Regarding that article you linked - you may want to also read this.

https://www.malone.news/p/is-the-cu...e&isFreemail=true&r=1uogyb&triedRedirect=true

Hmmm... Thanks for the link. I consider both Dr. McCollough and Dr. Malone good medical info resources. I already was taking the first article with a grain of salt, but it may require a much larger dose.

At least neither side of this debate is being censored by the government and/or the social media companies. That gives it a much better chance at actual resolution.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

That's just crazy talk. Biggest hint is the authors' supposition that researchers were looking for ways to get H5N1 2.3.4.4b to jump INTO ducks and other waterfowl.

H5N1 [pick any clade you want] already does just fine in ducks and other waterfowl. That's like suggesting researchers were trying to open a window when a whole wall was already missing.

If they can't get that right, they clearly lack the understanding to get anything else correct, unless by accident.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

By the way.

H5N1 2.3.4.4b in Ducks. In Indonesia. in 2022. Previously seen in 2020. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/30/3/23-0973_article

 

[TooCheep]

That's just crazy talk. Biggest hint is the authors' supposition that researchers were looking for ways to get H5N1 2.3.4.4b to jump INTO ducks and other waterfowl.

H5N1 [pick any clade you want] already does just fine in ducks and other waterfowl. That's like suggesting researchers were trying to open a window when a whole wall was already missing.

If they can't get that right, they clearly lack the understanding to get anything else correct, unless by accident.

The part that has me taking it more seriously the info that they have both a history of GOF research on H5N1 and that additional genetic experimentation is still going on today. Yes, H5N1 has been around since 1996 in China (as mentioned in the article). The discussion is about the recent version that has been going around.

Section: H5N1 Gain-of-Function Research at SEPRL

 

[TooCheep]

By the way.

H5N1 2.3.4.4b in Ducks. In Indonesia. in 2022. Previously seen in 2020. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/30/3/23-0973_article

I'm definitely not the expert in the version numbering scheme. They also referred to the current version as "clade 2.3.4.4b (genotype B3.13)" in a couple of spots in the article. Do you know if the genotype is yet another subcategory of the virus?