Backyard Brahmas!!

[Tikkijane]

Vulture hocks are a cluster of thick feathers (not soft, down like) that protrude backwards from the thigh/hock of the chicken.  They are desirable in some breeds, but they are a disqualifier for Brahmas.  They are desirable in Sultans, so if you google the breed for pictures you will find some great examples.  Usually they aren't as well defined in Brahmas, but you'll get the idea. I think it's a little harder to see them in pictures of adult Brahmas, Brahmas aren't as streamlined as Sultans.  If you look at the pictures that I posted of the 3 1/2 week old darks, you will see definite feathers coming in that are longer and are protruding backwards instead of wrapping around the thigh.  It isn't usually a problem with LF (large fowl) Brahmas, mostly a problem with bantams. 

Wee little vulture hocks

 

[Tikkijane]

Wee little vulture hocks

 

[Tikkijane]

I hope I have not been unduly hard on you, unless of course you start talking pyles, then all bets are off.

Everybody should raise birds that appeal to them, life is too short to do otherwise.  

Serious question for you guys.   At what point do vulture hocked, single combed birds, stop being referred to as Brahmas, and move over into Cochin territory ? 

Cochins have straight combs and huge wattles. So, there's that..... and cochins are dqed for vulture hocks, too.

 

[SD Bird Lady]

I hope I have not been unduly hard on you, unless of course you start talking pyles, then all bets are off.

Everybody should raise birds that appeal to them, life is too short to do otherwise.

Serious question for you guys. At what point do vulture hocked, single combed birds, stop being referred to as Brahmas, and move over into Cochin territory

Good point big medicine. I believe if a bird is true to type color isn't a big issue but once you have different combs and body type then you just have a barnyard mix bird.

I do agree that if your bird is good for you, call it what you want and enjoy them. What bothers me is if they are represented and/or sold as brahma with single combs and weighing in at 3.5 lbs. Like a 40lb minpin or a great dane who is only knee high. It isn't what is expected.

Being an educated consumer goes a long way when it comes to purchasing and raising any animal.

 

[cabinchicky]

x2 on that!! I agree totally but I only hope to get a few chicks for myself.I won't mind them being mutts.

 

[jtc123]

 

[big medicine]

Thank you, Big Medicine. I just played with that a bit. I was using the "new" chicken calculator and choosing silver ground color, black pattern color and partridge pattern which gives me the black patterned silver partridge/brown. So, I'll change that to gold ground color, black pattern color (edit: and multiple laced) to get the black patterned gold multiple laced partridge/brown. The new calculator doesn't have the s+/- gold/wildtype as a choice, so when I choose the female based on the multiple laced, the default is s+/- gold (same genes just different names I think). I should change that to S+/- Silver. For the male, the default is s+/s+ gold, I should leave that alone I think for a dark and change it to S/s+ for a split? When would the dark male be S/S?

What do you use for gold partridge? I usually use gold ground color, black pattern color and partridge pattern which gives me a black patterned gold partridge/brown. For the blue partridge I just change the pattern color to blue. Do you also use multiple laced for them?

I'm going to play with this today and see which genes are effected by the difference in the two. Sorry that I'm repeating back to you what you said, just trying to make sure I understand.

I will have to look into, and play around with the new version. I guess I book marked the old one, and has always been my go to reference.

s+/s+ would be gold based male-- s+ for female

S/S silver based male -- S for female

S/s+ split silver and gold based male -- no female equivalent

 

[bamadude]

Where are u finding this chicken calculator?

 

[bumpercarr]

Where are u finding this chicken calculator?

Just google the Chicken Calculator if this link doesn't work (I know it is long):

Edited: Link didn't work. This will get you to the old one, then just scroll down and go to the new one. http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

 

[bamadude]

Yes that link worked. Thanks. I will study it when i havnt been sampling my homebrewed ipa.