barred barnevelder???

[tadkerson]

I agree with David the E locus gene (brown) found in the barnies does produce autosomal barring in the juvenile plumage.

The bird has very good autosomal barring. It takes a gene called dark brown to get the autosomal barring with the pattern gene, melanotic.

The double lacing on barnies does not us the dark brown gene. They have the pattern gene, melanotic.

Please excuse me repeating information found in Davids post.

Tim

 

[Krys109uk]

I've seen the barring effect in juvenile multiple concentric laced birds (Pg only) but have never seen it in single laced birds.

 

[zoomia]

Well, I guess what I need to do is...nothing. Just wait and see what her feathers come in like. I'll definitely repost pix then.

 

[EweSheep]

Please do!

 

[ZZsBabiez]

Looking at this from my side of the fence, this is my impression, and it's no reflection on anyone.
I was into brugmansia for years... so many people tried to ID a brug by the looks of the flower.. which is impossible... Just cause a bloom looked like an named variety, it's sold on ebay as a named variety.. only to have the purchaser grow it out for a year to find out it's not what they bought.
I believe a partridge rock pullet/hen could easily be mistaken for a Barnevelder by someone who doesn't know... and labeled as such.. possibly bred with a Barnevelder.. or whatever.. and sold as a Barnevelder...

Honestly, I don't know the origin of my pair. They were given to me and the girl that had them was not positive of their origin... so to keep them from being incorrectly labeled as a certian strain.. I leave it unknown. They are exceptionally beautiful and produce amazing chicks.. so that's what is important to me.

I do know that out of all the chicks I've hatched, they all feathered out with obvious lacing.. No where in all my studies of Barnevelders was there mention of barring in the feathers.. There are 2 strains of Barnevelders. Single Laced and Double Laced..

The single laced were used for their dark eggs, while the Double Laced were the show birds with lighter brown eggs. I had a double laced pair.. her eggs were not that dark, but they were big and beautiful.

I will get try to get a pic of the one I have outside.. but understand I'm on day one of my vacation.. (second one in 6 years) and it's crazy right now.. OTOH.. this thread has been one of those brain twisters that sparked my curiosity.

Here is a chick that is probably about 2 or 3 weeks old.. I'm guessing... Even here, you can see that the tips of the feathers are lacing..

 

[ZZsBabiez]

Edited to add... Barnevelder pullets do not have gold/brown/rust in the hackles... they are black.. they come in black and stay black. Partridge Rocks have gold/brown/rust in the hackles..




Here is the hen.. Note the classic U shape to her body..

 

[Tailfeathers]

Thanks for the pic, ZZs. That chick looks like a Barnie.

God Bless,

 

[blackdotte]

Tailfeathers is correct, not all youngsters look like this, just the pullets,which is what we were discussing.
Barnevelders should be Double Laced, (except the Black,White & Duckwing varieties) and should all lay dark eggs.
I would suggest your single laced are commercial impure hatchery birds.
David

 

[Krys109uk]

I would suggest your single laced are commercial impure hatchery birds.

LOL .....my silver & gold laced wyandottes were top exhibition stock that Rob Boyd had brought over from Netherlands. They had excellent lacing & did very well at shows in UK at both local & national level.
The gold laced in particular were some of the best in UK. They had been some the Rob Boyd had chosen as breeding stock before he went to Aus, 5 or 6 years ago. Grant Brereton had some of these from me.....swapped for some of his silver pencilled.​

 

[Goose and Fig]

I would suggest your single laced are commercial impure hatchery birds.

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