BBS Ameraucana/Russian Orloff cross. Has anyone done this before?

[M To The Maxx]

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Nope.

 

[RAREROO]

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Yep, the F1 chicks from that cross, regardless of which breed is the mother or father, should come out to be the Wheaten color. The F1 chicks may show some spangling as juvenillles, but it should molt out since they only have one copy of the mottling gene.

If you breed the F1s together, I believe about 25% of them should have spangling.

So have you successfully come up with a good color crossing these breeds? Do you have pics of them?

Do I have not done this yet, but I am planning a similar cross and I know enough about genetics to know that that is how to start and what to expect. As far as getting a "good color" that would take a little longer than just the few generations that I explained, you just basicly keep selecting to best marked birds and breed them back the breed you are working to accomplish until you have the color you want with the type and traits of the desired breed.

 

[desertmarcy]

I see this is a very old thread, but since I did this cross, I want to share pics of what the birds look like. I used Russian Spangled Orloff cockerels over a black and a splash Ameraucana. The chicks are still young, the oldest from the black pullet being about 2 months and the oldest from the splash being about 6 weeks. I got all black chicks from the black Ameraucana, some of those are now developing orange or silver color. The splash I *think* was producing just blues, but not sure. The egg color of these two pullets is only very slightly different--and when I incubated what I *thought* was just the eggs from the splash, I got blues and blacks--so not sure! Anyway, I think they look more like an Orloff in body--they have the downcurved beak and stern look of an Orloff and have the Orloff curious personality. And just like the Orloffs, very hard to sex until they are quite old! If anybody has any tips for that, please pass them on.

 

[DARKHORSE]

Beautiful chicks!I am going to cross an ohio buckeye with an orloff to see if i can get a heavier orloff type with a bit less inbred lines.I love the look of your chicks though and the silver is stunning.I think orloffs look like red tailed hawks in their expressions and eye set.Its what makes them different from "chickens"

 

[desertmarcy]

Darkhorse, I'd be interested in how that turns out. Are you on the Orloff thread? I kept 4 black and 4 blue (silver) pullets of that cross. They do have the facial look of an Orloff, which I love, and the blues are even more beautiful now that they are fully grown. They are not very big birds, but the 2 Ameraucanas I used are small. They do lay a nice light green to blue egg, which pleased me since that's why I did that cross, I wanted some green egg layers. I originally kept 1 black and 1 blue cockerel, but space became an issue, and without a clear plan of what I was going to do with them, I butchered and ate them. They had pretty small carcasses. These birds also have the Orloff personality and are constantly underfoot.

 

[DARKHORSE]

Hi,no I am not on the orloff thread as I am new to BYC.I was looking around on the internet for orloff cross info and this thread popped up.I will for sure keep anyone interested updated with the orloff ohio cross.
for sure the draw back to the orloff is the small hens and maturing time.Hence maybe the buckeye will be able to add some hybrid vigor to the mix.I want to keep the characteristics of the orloff intact,just add size and correct the inbreeding mistakes.mmmmm.and yes,color would be a bonus

 

[desertmarcy]

I agree on the drawbacks you mention. I am working on size with mine, color is already good. I have never attempted crossing breeds with the intent to add some sort of improvement to one--for now I leave that to more expert breeders. Good luck with your endeavor. I know there are a number of people who would like to see the large fowl Orloff put back in the Standard.

 

[Cherie1n2]

I just got my spangled orloff and ameraucana chicks to start working on this project myself. I hope to come up with some great looking olive eggers.. (Doing barred rocks to get the brpwn egg color and after a few generations going to try to get them sex linked)
So I'd love to get this thread going again!

 

[Jagrassinger]

I have a blue ameracauna roo covered my Russian orlof hen! Got a beautiful cockerel out of them! Pictures of all three! He was a deep charcoal when hatched and boy did he color out! Not sure where his high comb came from (thinking hen isn’t as pure bred as we thought, but oh well beautiful boy regardless)

 

[Chicken journey]

I was thinking the same, I have a Lavender Ameraucana roo and three orloff hens. One is more white on her spangling. They are still about 4 months so it will be a little bit before I get photo. Any thought on what might happen