oh and here are the links for the breeders. the first link is just the link to the english shepherd clubs breeder listing page
http://www.englishshepherd.org/breeders.htm
now, you can either scroll down and hit the first breeder link, from virginia, carla old (click see webpage) or you can click this link which takes you to that page.
http://www.englishshepherd.org/Litters/Old6_10.htm this is the breeder that the other one recommended as an alternative option.
now again either scroll and click the one from idaho, kris hazelbaker or hear is the link:
http://www.englishshepherd.org/Litters/Hazelbaker5_10.htm this is the breeder that said they may have pups and also recommended i try the other breeder as well.
now of course there are several other litters that seem good but they have yet to reply, these include barbara brown, amy forrest, carmen and chuck statzer, teri knox, sandi thomas, and jay turpin (pretty much most of the breeders on the page) but they have yet to reply and "my" breeder(s) i would say is amoung the best. the breeder who did not have pups available now is claudie johnson but there are no pics of the dogs on her page so her is her website:
http://www.southernhomesteadkennel.com/ i would say that out of all of the above mentioned breeders that have not replied back yet, amy forrest, carmen and chuck statzer, teri knox, and jay turnpin probably have the best dogs as well as maybe barbara brown(i know thats pretty much the whole list... lol), but again i think "my" breeder is among the best of these breeders so i will make do, all the dogs are awesome!