ALL of these birds are GORGEOUS but #6 is my personal favorite...the Chinese Bamboo...quail?....
Beautiful Hill Quail/Partridge and others (Pic. Heavy)
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mine would have to be the bar backed and the bamboo pretty babies
Anyone have any experience with #12 crested wood partridge (aka roul roul) ????? I am really interested in that one and would like to have a bit more info.
Steve
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double post my fault....
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randy at spectrum ranch had them he could probably tell you a little bit about them
randy at spectrum ranch had them he could probably tell you a little bit about them
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Most of the sources quote it as Partridge, so 'Chinese Bamboo Partridge'.
I think those are one of the easiest ones to get, at least in Europe.
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To make things easier I made a list of the relative availability of the birds in U.S., the 'Avicultural data' to make it was gathered from www.gbwf.org, so thanks www.gbwf.org.
Birds can be classified:
No Information/No data - not possible to find confirmation or records of existance, so probably non-existent in US.
Rare;
Uncommon;
Common/well established;
Although related this levels do not take in account the monetary value of the species, but almost always a rare bird is more expensive than a common.
#1 - Brown-Breasted Hill - No information, probably non-existent in US. Uncommon in European aviaries.
#2 - Common Hill - No information, probably non-existent in US. Uncommon in European aviaries.
#3 - Bar-Backed - No information, probably non-existent in US. Uncommon in European aviaries.
#4 - Rickett's Hill or White-necklaced - Very rare or non-existent in North American aviaries; status not well known by author; uncommon in European aviaries.
#5 - Chestnut Bellied - According to ISIS, 5 zoos report keeping this species in North America; only Arborophila species reported by ISIS to be in North America. Status in private aviaries is undetermined at this time.
#6 - Chinese Bamboo - The Chinese subspecies is well established in captivity. (the other subspecies Mountain Bamboo-partridge rare to non-exitent)
#7 - Barbary - Common. Very easy care in aviaries, but can sometimes be aggressive towards aviary mates as breeding season nears. Care also must be taken when making colonies during winter as fighting may take place between males. Aviary floor needs to be well drained. Landscaping with rocks is also recommended for a natural feel.
#8 - Jungle Bush Quail - As of this writing, this species is not currently kept in American aviaries. There are records of this species being in America several decades ago, but typical of most of the drab colored old-world francolin, partridge and quail, it fell out of interest of American "breeders".
Submitted by Sam Cunningham: Very rare in the uk and europe (not sure on the status in US), new bloodlines are needed to increase genetic viability.
#9 - Painted Bush Quail - No information.
#10 - Sand Partridge - No information.
#11 - See-see Partridge - No information.
#12 - Crested Wood-partridge - Uncommon, but highly sought after.
#13 - Madagascar Partridge - Have only been in the US since the mid 1980s, still rather rare in collections. There are also small numbers kept in European aviaries.
#14 - Tibetan - No information.
#15 - Snow Partridge - No data, doubtful any are kept in American aviaries at this time. Exist a wild population in Nevada that can be hunted.
#16 - Himalayan Snowcock - Was formally quite common in American collections and articles show that it did very well in captivity, but whatever the reason (as in the case of many of the less-flashy galliformes) the Himalayan Snowcock is now quite rarely seen.
#17 - Black Francolin - Common. Can have a loud call during the breeding season. Males may also become aggressive during the breeding season, make sure there is plenty of cover and escape routes for the hen and it maybe necessary to house her seperate and allow limited access for breeding only. They are generally monogamous in the wild and it is best to house only pair per aviary.
Tend to be skittish and easily spooked in an aviary, you can reduce the risk of injury by trimming a wing to prevent them from crashing into the mesh. Well planted aviaries with little surrounding traffic would be best for breeding. They are fairly winter hardy, but always provide some shelter during the coldest months.
Enjoy live food such as mealworms and waxworms, but be careful when feeding to chicks as they are prone to toe-picking.
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I think those are very expensive birds, but for more accurate info contact SpectrumRanch, he referred he has them here
From gbwf.org:
"Roul-roul can become very tame in captivity, very charming and have great personalities. They are delicate and not recommended for beginners. They are prone to develop many poultry diseases and need to be kept away from ground where other game birds have been kept. They also do not seem to do well on wire, often developing foot and leg problems. It is recommended that they are kept in pairs and in aviaries with sand bottoms that are well planted. Roul-roul are not winter hardy and need heated quarters during cold weather.
If kept in an indoor, tropical environment, this partridge may lay at anytime during the year. The males seem to do most of the nest building, using pine needles, branches or straw to create a tunnel-like nest. In captivity, the chicks of this species may have problems learning to eat. Provide mealworms and place a few small size chicks such as button quail in the brooder to help "teach" the little partridge to eat.
The diet of Roul-roul in our care consists of game bird mix (Purina Game Bird Maint. & Cracked Corn) this is mixed with finch seed, lovebird diet and softbill pellets and given in a pan with full access. Every two days, the partridge are offered a pan of fruits - chopped apple, pear mainstays, alternate with grape, blueberries, plum, banana, papaya (once a month, not a favorite), Kiwi and orange, vegetables - alternate corn (soft), peas, broccoli, carrots, zucchini, sweet potato and chopped greens (alternate romaine, leaf, endive, kale - never iceberg). Please note I mentioned alternate, I only chop and offer what the partridge will eat in a few hours. Once a week chopped hard-boiled eggs is also added to the pan. Two or three times a week mealworms are given and they will also get an occassional cricket or waxworms when we have extra (after the herps get their's!!). This diet has worked very well for us with not only the partridge, but with all the birds. It is time consuming, but worth it."
Most of the sources quote it as Partridge, so 'Chinese Bamboo Partridge'.
I think those are one of the easiest ones to get, at least in Europe.
Quote:
To make things easier I made a list of the relative availability of the birds in U.S., the 'Avicultural data' to make it was gathered from www.gbwf.org, so thanks www.gbwf.org.
Birds can be classified:
No Information/No data - not possible to find confirmation or records of existance, so probably non-existent in US.
Rare;
Uncommon;
Common/well established;
Although related this levels do not take in account the monetary value of the species, but almost always a rare bird is more expensive than a common.
#1 - Brown-Breasted Hill - No information, probably non-existent in US. Uncommon in European aviaries.
#2 - Common Hill - No information, probably non-existent in US. Uncommon in European aviaries.
#3 - Bar-Backed - No information, probably non-existent in US. Uncommon in European aviaries.
#4 - Rickett's Hill or White-necklaced - Very rare or non-existent in North American aviaries; status not well known by author; uncommon in European aviaries.
#5 - Chestnut Bellied - According to ISIS, 5 zoos report keeping this species in North America; only Arborophila species reported by ISIS to be in North America. Status in private aviaries is undetermined at this time.
#6 - Chinese Bamboo - The Chinese subspecies is well established in captivity. (the other subspecies Mountain Bamboo-partridge rare to non-exitent)
#7 - Barbary - Common. Very easy care in aviaries, but can sometimes be aggressive towards aviary mates as breeding season nears. Care also must be taken when making colonies during winter as fighting may take place between males. Aviary floor needs to be well drained. Landscaping with rocks is also recommended for a natural feel.
#8 - Jungle Bush Quail - As of this writing, this species is not currently kept in American aviaries. There are records of this species being in America several decades ago, but typical of most of the drab colored old-world francolin, partridge and quail, it fell out of interest of American "breeders".
Submitted by Sam Cunningham: Very rare in the uk and europe (not sure on the status in US), new bloodlines are needed to increase genetic viability.
#9 - Painted Bush Quail - No information.
#10 - Sand Partridge - No information.
#11 - See-see Partridge - No information.
#12 - Crested Wood-partridge - Uncommon, but highly sought after.
#13 - Madagascar Partridge - Have only been in the US since the mid 1980s, still rather rare in collections. There are also small numbers kept in European aviaries.
#14 - Tibetan - No information.
#15 - Snow Partridge - No data, doubtful any are kept in American aviaries at this time. Exist a wild population in Nevada that can be hunted.
#16 - Himalayan Snowcock - Was formally quite common in American collections and articles show that it did very well in captivity, but whatever the reason (as in the case of many of the less-flashy galliformes) the Himalayan Snowcock is now quite rarely seen.
#17 - Black Francolin - Common. Can have a loud call during the breeding season. Males may also become aggressive during the breeding season, make sure there is plenty of cover and escape routes for the hen and it maybe necessary to house her seperate and allow limited access for breeding only. They are generally monogamous in the wild and it is best to house only pair per aviary.
Tend to be skittish and easily spooked in an aviary, you can reduce the risk of injury by trimming a wing to prevent them from crashing into the mesh. Well planted aviaries with little surrounding traffic would be best for breeding. They are fairly winter hardy, but always provide some shelter during the coldest months.
Enjoy live food such as mealworms and waxworms, but be careful when feeding to chicks as they are prone to toe-picking.
Quote:
I think those are very expensive birds, but for more accurate info contact SpectrumRanch, he referred he has them here
From gbwf.org:
"Roul-roul can become very tame in captivity, very charming and have great personalities. They are delicate and not recommended for beginners. They are prone to develop many poultry diseases and need to be kept away from ground where other game birds have been kept. They also do not seem to do well on wire, often developing foot and leg problems. It is recommended that they are kept in pairs and in aviaries with sand bottoms that are well planted. Roul-roul are not winter hardy and need heated quarters during cold weather.
If kept in an indoor, tropical environment, this partridge may lay at anytime during the year. The males seem to do most of the nest building, using pine needles, branches or straw to create a tunnel-like nest. In captivity, the chicks of this species may have problems learning to eat. Provide mealworms and place a few small size chicks such as button quail in the brooder to help "teach" the little partridge to eat.
The diet of Roul-roul in our care consists of game bird mix (Purina Game Bird Maint. & Cracked Corn) this is mixed with finch seed, lovebird diet and softbill pellets and given in a pan with full access. Every two days, the partridge are offered a pan of fruits - chopped apple, pear mainstays, alternate with grape, blueberries, plum, banana, papaya (once a month, not a favorite), Kiwi and orange, vegetables - alternate corn (soft), peas, broccoli, carrots, zucchini, sweet potato and chopped greens (alternate romaine, leaf, endive, kale - never iceberg). Please note I mentioned alternate, I only chop and offer what the partridge will eat in a few hours. Once a week chopped hard-boiled eggs is also added to the pan. Two or three times a week mealworms are given and they will also get an occassional cricket or waxworms when we have extra (after the herps get their's!!). This diet has worked very well for us with not only the partridge, but with all the birds. It is time consuming, but worth it."
Wow thanks so much for the wonderful information. I will most likely be getting in touch with them at Spectrum in the next few months as I get the garage all finished up so I can offer a better heated and indoor aviary for a few of our birds and some of the birds that we want as well. The rest of the information is great as well, very much appreciated.
Steve
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Hello from the UK. Is there a forum on ROUL ROUL'S Hatching there own eggs. Mine at present are laying, and rather than putting them in my incubators, I am going to see if they will hatch their own. Has anyone got any info to give, On the subject.....I at present , am currently hoping to import to import a couple of pairs of MEARN'S quail from your lovely country. I am also looking for a pair or two of prairie chickens. Sadly, they seemed to have been shot out. But I will keep on looking.
BOB......................
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I am currently sending off to AMERICA for some MEARNS QUAIL and a pair of Elegants, So I would say you are wrong when you say that you cannot get them. They are out there, You have only got to look. The only trouble is, There is out there too many gorgeous birds for the bird lover to gather. I just love the Chinese mountain bamboo quail.as well. I can see a flight being built for a pair eventually.
BOB uk
BOB uk
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