Beginner advice

Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by annie56, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. annie56

    annie56 New Egg

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    Hello, I live in the UK and having spent some years helping out at my local city farm, I am now planning on getting my own chickens. We have a big garden, but are just in the planning stages. I joined the site because it seems like a friendly place to find help and advice. Being a complete novice to chicken keeping, I want to make sure I give them the best care I can by reading up thoroughly first and speaking to as many owners as possible. Is there a part of the site where I can ask basic questions about chicken rearing? I basically need a list of essentials and space requirements etc, and I prefer chatting to actual owners than putting my blind faith in google! Thanks, looking forward to exploring the site + hopefully acquiring some chickens in the near future!
     
  2. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner Chicken Obsessed

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    [​IMG] Welcome to the forum!! [​IMG] Glad you joined us! [​IMG]

    You'll find different sections on here with titles ranging from "Raising Baby Chicks" to Meat Birds". You can post specific question in them. Many of those sections have "stickies" at the top with recommendations and suggestions. The "Learning Center" at the top of the screen can also make interesting reading.

    One thing I will mention. We all have different goals and circumstances. You will get a whole lot of different advice and suggestions. Part of that is that this is an internet site and not everybody gives really great advice so always use caution, but the really big reason is that there is such a wide variety of things that work there is usually no one-answer-fits-all. An example is space requirements. The generic rule of thumb most often used on this forum is 4 square feet of space in the coop alomng with 10 square feet in the run per full sized chicken, but that is real general. That will keep most people out of trouble most of the time. There are so many different things to consider concerning space that that rule of thumb is over the top for some people and others find it is not enough. It depends on your chickens, your conditions, and your management techniques. I'll include a write-up I did on space that gives my thoughts. Others on here will disagree with part of maybe even all of this.

    As long as you have enough height for the roosts to be noticeably higher than the nest boxes, height does not matter to chickens. They are basically ground dwelling birds, so the ground area is all that really matters space wise. I said it does not matter to the chickens. It does matter to me if I have to work in there. It matters quite a bit.

    If the nest boxes are high enough off the ground that the chickens can easily get under them, then nest boxes do not take away from the space available. The tops of the nesting boxes does not add to the living space either although they may occasionally be up there. Ground level is what counts.

    Some of the things that make up the space requirement are, in my opinion:

    1. Personal space for the birds. They have different personalities and different individual requirements. Some are very possessive of personal space and some can share.

    2. Access to feeder and waterer. The general recommendation is that they all be able to eat at one time, but access to the waterer is also important. Part of this is that they seem to like to all eat at once but not necessarily drink at the same time. Part of it is that a dominant bird may keep others from eating or drinking, especially with limited access.

    3. Being able to put the feeder and waterer where they will not poop in it when they roost.

    4. Roost space. They not only need to have enough room to roost, they need to have enough room for them to sort out who gets to sleep next to whom and who gets the prime spots. They also need enough room to get on the roosts and get off them. When they get on, they may jump from some midway support or fly directly to the roost, but either way, they like to spread their wings. And some chickens seem to enjoy blocking the entry points if there are limits. And when they get off, mine tend to want to fly down, not jump to a halfway point. They need room to fly down without bumping into feeders, waterers, nesting boxes, or a wall.

    5. Poop load. The larger area they have the less often you have to actively manage the poop. They poop a lot while on the roost so you may have to give that area special consideration, but mucking out the entire coop can be backbreaking work plus you have to have some place to put all that bedding and poop. In my opinion, totally cleaning out the coop is something that needs to happen as seldom as possible.

    6. How often are they able to get out of the coop. The more they are confined to the coop, the larger the personal space needs to be. The normal recommendation on this forum is 4 square feet per full sized chicken with a minimum of 10 square feet of run per bird. This additional requirement outside is sometimes not mentioned. How often they are allowed out of the coop may depend on a lot more than just weather. Your work schedule, when you are able to turn them loose, what time of day you open the pop door to let them out or lock them up at night, all this and more enters into the equation. The 4 square feet recommendation assumes they will spend extended time in the coop and not be able to get in the run. What that extended time can safely be depends on a lot of different factor so there is no one correct length of time for everyone.

    7. Do you feed and water in the coop or outside. The more they are outside, the less pressure on the size of the coop.

    8. The size of the chicken. Bantams require less room than full sized chickens. This has to be tempered by breed and the individual personalities. Some bantams can be more protective of personal space than others, but this is also true of full sized breeds.

    9. The breed of the chicken. Some handle confinement better than others.

    10. The number of chickens. The greater the number of chickens, the more personal space they can have if the square foot per chicken stays constant. Let me explain. Assume each chicken occupies 1 square foot of space. If you have two chickens and 4 square feet per chicken, the two chickens occupy 2 square feet, which leaves 6 square feet for them to explore. If you have ten chickens with 4 square feet per chicken, each chicken has 30 unoccupied square feet to explore. A greater number also can give more space to position the feeders and waterers properly in relation to the roosts and provide access. I’m not encouraging you to crowd your birds if you have a large number of them. I’m trying to say you are more likely to get in trouble with 4 square feet per chicken if you have very few chickens.

    11. What is your flock make-up. A flock with more than one rooster may be more peaceful if it has more space. I don't want to start the argument about number or roosters here as I know more than one rooster can often peacefully coexist with a flock, but I firmly believe more space helps.

    12. What is the maximum number of chickens you will have. Consider hatching chicks or bringing in replacements. Look down the road a bit.

    13. Do you want a broody to raise chicks with the flock? A broody needs sufficient room to work with or you risk problems from other chickens.

    14. The more space you have, the easier it is to integrate chickens.

    I'm sure I am missing several components, but the point I'm trying to make is that we all have different conditions. There is no magic number that suits us all. The 4 square feet in a coop with 10 square feet in the run is a good rule of thumb for a minimum that most of the time will keep us out of trouble, but not always. I do believe that more is better both in the coop and in the run.
     
  3. Kevin565

    Kevin565 Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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  4. CheerioLounge

    CheerioLounge Chillin' With My Peeps

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  5. ChickenCanoe

    ChickenCanoe Chicken Obsessed

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    I'd also suggest the learning center at the top. Raising chickens 101 and how to.
    Other online research will get you most of what you need. If there's a question you can't find an answer to - then ask.

    By the way - congratulations for doing your research first.
     
  6. kidcody

    kidcody Overrun With Chickens

    [​IMG] [​IMG] from Washington State glad you joined us!
    You have come to the right place, a lot of helpful people here on byc!
     
  7. hcppam

    hcppam Chillin' With My Peeps

    You can also, go to chickens 101 on this site, type in any question in the search and you will find most likely many people have asked the same question and there will be a lot of answers there. Good luck.
    [​IMG] Hello, from the Big Bear mountains of Ca. Glad you found us. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  8. ThePigeonKid

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  9. weimarmama

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