Best Oral Dewormer Besides Safeguard or Valbazen

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I have a couple chickens passing large roundworms in their poop. Half of my flock is molting, so while I do not want to wait to treat the birds, I also don't want to use either fenbendazole or valbazen and risk harming feather growth (yes, I realize valbazen may or may not affect feathers). I prefer to treat each chicken orally, whether it is a paste or liquid to make sure each bird gets the correct amount. I do NOT want to use ivermectin in any form. I have used it in the past and not only did it not kill the worms, it killed my favorite bird. I'm contemplating Nemex (pyrantel pamoate), but is there another oral option I don't know about
 
Personally I just use DE. Aka Diatomacious earth(food grade) in thier food. I put a cup in a 5 gal feeder.
It kills unbiasly species wise and is safe for your birds as long as they arent drowning in it 3 of my hens got worms last month and symptoms were clearing within a week after treating feed! Plus its easy to buy in bulk and store extra for later use whith out worrying over expiration
 
I haven’t had worm problems with my birds, but on Joel Salatin’s advice (in a couple of his books) I got some original Shaklee Basic H for my trio of heifers. Kind of weird but it has worked well for them. I dose them whenever I see poopy tushies and within a few days they’re back to normal.

I occasionally (every 3 months or so) add a little (like a 1/2 tsp to a gallon) to the poultry’s drinking water, making sure it’s the only water available for 3 days... just in case. This has been in the past but is no longer a company-sanctioned use for this product, but Salatin continues to use it. It was originally marketed as a product to speed weight gain in cattle, I believe.

It can be hard to find. I found a local distributor (via the company’s website) who sold me a quart jar. (Otherwise it’s only available in a 5 gallon pail. Kind of pricey and it would last you and your birds around 10,000 years or so if you didn’t take to also scrubbing the coop with it. :lau) It’s about time to spring for that whole pail... it works and I don’t want to find myself with no source. Plus I use a whole 1/3 cup for my cows, so only... maybe 100 years’ worth or so...
 
How often do most flocks get bad worms now that i think about it? I can count mine on my 2 hands over 7+ years ?? Generally I belive worms can just be prevented through cleaning and proper health upkeep and pest prevention in rats and such. I've never needed anything heavy duty as a drench Ever?! I feed my birds feed plus scraps such as jalapenos, pumpkins, peppers, etc in addition to ACV and and lots of offered supplement. I would assume they'd be more prone to bugs as they are constantly free range so now that we're discussing it im curious :/ any common factors that lead to these huge parasite issues in flocks ?(rather than the obvious pests and possible poor cleaning) anyone know if free range or run birds are more susceptible? Im now legitimately curious seeing how serious it comes across when I've never needed to rely on a chemical dewormer and can say while all animals can carry worms in some form my birds infestation is obviously cleared away to the point of fat healthy hens laying clean and large eggs whith no issues or distress nor signs of said worms any longer. So what main cause sets off /causes the bad cases? Any one know? My girls get them right before winter from the times ive seen, when they're going into molt and adapting to seasonal change, but i assume this cant be the cause for everyone?
 
I have a couple chickens passing large roundworms in their poop. Half of my flock is molting, so while I do not want to wait to treat the birds, I also don't want to use either fenbendazole or valbazen and risk harming feather growth (yes, I realize valbazen may or may not affect feathers). I prefer to treat each chicken orally, whether it is a paste or liquid to make sure each bird gets the correct amount. I do NOT want to use ivermectin in any form. I have used it in the past and not only did it not kill the worms, it killed my favorite bird. I'm contemplating Nemex (pyrantel pamoate), but is there another oral option I don't know about
@dawg53 may want to chime in. Here's his instructions for using Pyrantel Pomate
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/they-have-worms.1337513/page-4#post-21884220

@penny1960 Wazine is no longer available. You may be able to get it off Ebay, it's running from $50++++++ a bottle. :eek:
If you pickup Wazine at a feed store follow directions
 
I have a couple chickens passing large roundworms in their poop. Half of my flock is molting, so while I do not want to wait to treat the birds, I also don't want to use either fenbendazole or valbazen and risk harming feather growth (yes, I realize valbazen may or may not affect feathers). I prefer to treat each chicken orally, whether it is a paste or liquid to make sure each bird gets the correct amount. I do NOT want to use ivermectin in any form. I have used it in the past and not only did it not kill the worms, it killed my favorite bird. I'm contemplating Nemex (pyrantel pamoate), but is there another oral option I don't know about
Valbazen will NOT affect feather regrowth during or after molt.
 

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