best wormer and best lice control?

[rossco1]

would like others opinions on the best products for both worm and lice control. have always used ivermectin for both but need another option for 2 reasons. firstly have alot of birds on the ground now and administering .5ml by mouth takes approx 3hrs. i'm looking for the best water soluble product. secondly and more importantly, have administered ivermectin 3 times in 21 days for what started out as a very minor outbreak of lice and have just lost 2 of my glw in 1 day and they were covered in them. sprayed all perches etc 3 wks ago so it looks like the ivermectin is just not working for lice. also checked some poop today and found worm eggs 7 days after the last treatment, so it may not be working for worms either.i think its maldacin that was recommended by another breeder who sprays small amount under wings and around vent but was wondering if anyone has succesfully used a water soluble lice treatment for the same reason. appreciate any input

 

[PapaChaz]

i had an outbreak of lice in my hens, after much reading and studying, i bought some liquid permethrin at TSC. i mix it up in a spray bottle, hold em upside down by the feet, spray them down good under the wings, chest area and around the vent. it seems to be clearing the lice up well. gave the second treatment yesterday, will do a third in another week. seems to be working for me

 

[saladin]

First, you are giving way to much Ivermectin to a chicken! Way to much.

With any wormer/delouse method you need to alternate to avoid building up a tolerance to the drug/spray/dust being used.

I alternated the following:

For worming:

Wazine (or some such water soluble solution)
10 days later follow up with Ivermectin injectable (give this orally:10 drops thru a needle and syringe for a mature bird less for an immature bird)

Do this at least twice a year. Ivermectin is good for up to 3 months.


Lice/Mites

Alternate the following Sprays/Dust

Malathion: Sevin: Pyrethrum
Also, it helps to paint the roost poles and nesting boxes with burnt motor oil that has Malathion added to it.
I spray my birds very often especially those that are exposed to wild birds.

 

[Newbie in Screamer Al]

I like the ease of wazine too. I just did my birds for mites, and lice with a dust from TSC. Took lees the 10 mins. to do 15 birds. Help them upside down by feet, and my lady dusted under wings while I help them open, vent, backs and breasts. Then we dusted the litter and roosts as well.

 

[galanie]

Mine have a pile of dry dirt with tons of wood ashes in it that they like to dust bathe in. I check them frequently and so far haven't had any mite problems. It's an old time thing I heard about and had nothing to lose by giving it a try - as a preventative. Either I'm lucky or it is working.

I'm interested in only having to wait 10 days to follow up with Ivermectin. I thought it was 2 weeks. The faster I can start eating the eggs again, the happier I'll be.

 

[dawg53]

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Ten days is IF you've used a different wormer PRIOR to using ivermectin as the follow up broad spectrum wormer. Ten days is also the time alloted for redusting after the first dusting to kill lice/mites hatched from eggs, breaking their lifecycle. If you use ivermectin (it's primary use is a wormer)...there is a 14 day withdrawal period. Toss the eggs in the garbage.

 

[tigerkitten45]

I found a good way to apply the Severin dust is with an old cut up pair of panty hose, cut off the foot and add dust, tie open end and powder away!

 

[saladin]

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This will work. An even better way is to use your fingers. By doing it with your hand you are able to 'massage' it in better.

 

[rossco1]

thanks for the replies. have only ever used ivermectin and the thought to rotate products to avoid resistance never occured to me, although it should have. i'm sure that'll fix the problem.

 

[galanie]

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Ten days is IF you've used a different wormer PRIOR to using ivermectin as the follow up broad spectrum wormer. Ten days is also the time alloted for redusting after the first dusting to kill lice/mites hatched from eggs, breaking their lifecycle. If you use ivermectin (it's primary use is a wormer)...there is a 14 day withdrawal period. Toss the eggs in the garbage.

THanks

Yes, as a follow up to another wormer was what I meant. I used Wazine a few days ago. This will at least cut 4 days off the total time my neighbors will be w/out eggs hehe. I can see where what I said might be misunderstood now that I look back at it with all the talk of mites. Again, thank you.