I have been wanting to add some unrelated hens to my flock and was wondering where I could get bibbed Runners at. I’m looking for very good quality as well. Does anyone know where I can get bibbed Runners that are very good quality? Thanks y’all.
Bibbed Indian Runners
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TomCahalan
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You can breed them yourself. Get one solid colored parent (black, blue, chocolate, etc...) and one that isn't solid colored (but fawn&white won't work, pick something like mallard or trout).
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Oh thank you so much!
TomCahalan
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You're welcome. If you have certain parents in mind, I might be able to tell you what color(s) the children will be.
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Where could I get mallard or trout runner?
TomCahalan
Songster
I'm not sure where you can get them. I have seen pictures of them so I know that they exist.
If you want you can use another breed. I am pretty sure that a silver welsh harlequin would work, and that breed has a lot of runner ancestry. The gold welsh harlequin won't work. Mate the silver welsh harlequin to a solid-colored runner and you will get mixes with white bibs. Then take those mixes and mate them to other runner ducks and half of the ducklings will have white bibs. Keep breeding the birds with your preferred plumage to runners and after a few generations you will have runners with a bibs.
There are two ways to get a white bib on a duck. The easy way (which is what I am describing) requires that your duck have one or two "extended black" alleles, and no more than one "dusky" allele. The white bib comes as an interaction between the "extended black" and the "dusky" phenotypes. "extended black" is dominant, "dusky" is recessive, and they are on separate genes.
Solid colored ducks (such as chocolate runners) have two copies of extended black, and two copies of dusky. Mallard colored ducks don't have extended black or dusky. So if you mate a mallard with a black runner you will get a duckling that has one extended black, and one dusky. That will give you a black duck with a bib. You can add in dilution alleles on other genes, such as chocolate and blue/silver to get colors other than black, still with that white bib.
There is another way to get a bib on your ducks, but it requires the rare recessive bib allele on another gene. Any duck with two copies of this allele will have a bib. The problem is that it is very rare. None of the common breeds carry it. Some dutch hookbills carry it, so that would be the breed to search out if you want to take this approach.
If you want you can use another breed. I am pretty sure that a silver welsh harlequin would work, and that breed has a lot of runner ancestry. The gold welsh harlequin won't work. Mate the silver welsh harlequin to a solid-colored runner and you will get mixes with white bibs. Then take those mixes and mate them to other runner ducks and half of the ducklings will have white bibs. Keep breeding the birds with your preferred plumage to runners and after a few generations you will have runners with a bibs.
There are two ways to get a white bib on a duck. The easy way (which is what I am describing) requires that your duck have one or two "extended black" alleles, and no more than one "dusky" allele. The white bib comes as an interaction between the "extended black" and the "dusky" phenotypes. "extended black" is dominant, "dusky" is recessive, and they are on separate genes.
Solid colored ducks (such as chocolate runners) have two copies of extended black, and two copies of dusky. Mallard colored ducks don't have extended black or dusky. So if you mate a mallard with a black runner you will get a duckling that has one extended black, and one dusky. That will give you a black duck with a bib. You can add in dilution alleles on other genes, such as chocolate and blue/silver to get colors other than black, still with that white bib.
There is another way to get a bib on your ducks, but it requires the rare recessive bib allele on another gene. Any duck with two copies of this allele will have a bib. The problem is that it is very rare. None of the common breeds carry it. Some dutch hookbills carry it, so that would be the breed to search out if you want to take this approach.
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Wow! Thank you! I have one more question can I also breed splash runners?
TomCahalan
Songster
Yes, just breed blues together. For more information about duck plumage genetics, see Pyxis's guide: https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/mallard-derived-duck-color-genetics-basics.74277/
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One of my ducklings that I hatched turned out to be a blue bibbed Indian Runner!!
HollowOfWisps
Previously AstroDuck
I absolutely love your duck
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