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Black Copper Maran Bantams

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by scorpio2367, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. scorpio2367

    scorpio2367 Out Of The Brooder

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    I have a question for everyone out there. Has anyone ever heard of a Black Copper Maran Bantam chicken breed ? I ask this because I have been working on now for just under a year to produce a Black Copper Maran Bantam breed and I think I may have found sucess. I won't go into details of which breeds i've mixed but I can tell you one of them was a Black Copper Maran. I am now breeding my adults to see if their gens will be passed down to their offsrping. If they are and the new offspring produce the same reddish brown eggs I was thinking of selling chicks, but that won't be for some time. But let me get back to why I am posting this question...... Has anyone ever heard of a Black Copper Maran Bantam chicken breed ?
     
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  2. hoppy

    hoppy I'm not all fluff

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    I have not but would love to see pictures.
     
  3. blackdotte

    blackdotte Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Brown-Red (aka Black Copper) Marans bantams are recognised by the European Common Standard Committee. They are however only known to exist in Holland. No other colour variety of Marans bantam is recognised by the European Common Standard Committee. Silver Cuckoo exist in Holland but have as yet not been accepted, no other colours currently thought to exist.
    The British recognise pseudo Marans bantams in Black; Dark,Silver & Golden Cuckoo but none are currently thought to exist.
    David
     
  4. Spinpuff

    Spinpuff Out Of The Brooder

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    Whatever became of your Bantam Copper Marans experiment? Did you reap success?
     
  5. lovepepper

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    I just bought two ~2-3 month old bantam Black Copper Marans from The Double D Ranch in Prineville, OR at a chicken swap in Terrebonne, OR. I didn't think to ask what they were crossed with. They do have some white in their wings and have feathered feet.

    Sorry for the meh pics.

    This was taken on the way home. We had just sold a 4 month old Cuckoo Maran Rooster on the way who nearly filled this box, so you can kind of gauge their size?:
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    Suspected Roo:
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    You can kind of see the copper around the neck:
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    Most Probable Hen:
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    When we were looking at them I suspected that one of them was a roo, so I asked. The woman selling them said "no, they're 4 months old" to which I responded, "wow, they're going to be small!" She said something like, "well, not that small". Pretty sure they're not 4 months old (they're still peeping!!) and that one is suspiciously roo-looking [​IMG].

    I think we are at least a good 3 months from seeing any eggs, but I can re-post when we get eggs if anyone is still interested :D
     
  6. Spinpuff

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    So if you happen to have a pair there, do ypu dare breed them? And I wonder if those folks ever sell hatching eggs?
     
  7. lovepepper

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    I'm not sure if I'd breed them, as I'm more of a pet chicken kind of person. Though it would be interesting! If we do sell the rooster (if he is a rooster), we'd definitely make sure that he goes to someone who appreciates him for his rarity :D. We'll decide once they're all grown up!

    The ranch's number is 541-771-0243. I'm not sure if they sell hatching eggs and they don't really even have a website (and the Facebook page is weird, something isn't set up right). I didn't see any hatching eggs at their booth at the swap, but they had quite a few birds with them. It might be worth asking if you really want some!

    While I was searching online for information about bantam marans I also found this place: http://www.freewebs.com/shineonfarm/bantammarans.htm
    Her example eggs look beautiful! It does say she sells and ships hatching eggs and started birds. This was the only site other than this thread that I found mentioning bantam marans (though I only searched for like 5 minutes).

    I feel like I should mention that I don't know either of these people/farms. Though the birds I got from Double D have been healthy thus far (we've only had them a week), and appear to have been free ranged. :D
     
  8. Spinpuff

    Spinpuff Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks for the good info! Keep us all posted as to the eggs when they come.
     
  9. lovepepper

    lovepepper Out Of The Brooder

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    Hi!

    So we're getting eggs nearly daily from our bantam black copper maran.

    These are her eggs:
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    For size comparison, clockwise from the back left the eggs are from our welsummer, cuckoo maran, leghorn, two from our maran bantam, and a brahma bantam.
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    This is what they look like now, they are more skittish than most of our birds (the pictures are really blurry, I had to chase after them):
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    They are almost always together:
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    The roo is very handsome, here he is with our other rooster, Fancy Pants, a white cochin:
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    He is much larger than she is, but it is kind of hard to tell:
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    The rooster is very docile, we've heard him crow a few times, but it is very quiet, more of a cooing. He's never chased the other hens around as of yet, and I haven't even seen him chase his own lady at all yet. We haven't come up with names for them yet, we've named 12 out of our 16 chickens!
     
  10. FLcowboy

    FLcowboy New Egg

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    Alright so from what I've found they were accepted by ABA but they were so rare they were removed from the accepted list. I researched it because I randomly bought chicks and got a bantam frizzle black copper marans rooster by chance The only thing is he has poor genetics with a yellowish copper [​IMG]
     
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