Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[Chooks man]

Here how to breed a pure chooks strain just from Roosters.Example ; Marans. its called " Absorption crossing"
1) Marans Rooster BCM X your hens = F1 50% marans gene.
2) Cross F1 Cockerel ( the one look like a maran phenotype) cross him to his sister/half sister F1 ( maran phenotype ) = F2 in this generation they will be a lot variation in the phenotype.
3) Pick the F2 pullets ( the one that are more marans looking and lay darker eggs ) CROSS them to a pure BCM Rooster = F3 ,they are 75% marans.
4) cross this F3 cockerel to his F3 sisters / half sisters . always go with the marans looking chooks = F4 a litle variation in this generation but not as much as the F2.they still 75% marans genes
5) Pick the F4 best pullets ( marans type) and cross them to a BCM Rooster = F5 they will be 87.5% marans genes.
6) Cross the F5 cockerel to his sisters/half sisters . pick the marans looking chooks = F6 no much variation in this generation by now most of the chooks looks like marans and you will see the one s currying any recessive genes they are a cull .
7) Pick the best F6 pullets and Cross them to a BCM Rooster = F7 this generation will breed true marans

ONE thing is very important is to CROSS the sibling together each type you use a new Rooster. WHY . is to breed out any recessive genes IF you don t do that you will never breed true marans BECAUSE the recessive genes of the original strain crossed to the marans will be passed down.

HOPE that Help

 

[KernH]

Here how to breed a pure chooks strain just from Roosters.Example ; Marans. its called " Absorption crossing"
1) Marans Rooster BCM X your hens = F1 50% marans gene.
2) Cross F1 Cockerel ( the one look like a maran phenotype) cross him to his sister/half sister F1 ( maran phenotype ) = F2 in this generation they will be a lot variation in the phenotype.
3) Pick the F2 pullets ( the one that are more marans looking and lay darker eggs ) CROSS them to a pure BCM Rooster = F3 ,they are 75% marans.
4) cross this F3 cockerel to his F3 sisters / half sisters . always go with the marans looking chooks = F4 a litle variation in this generation but not as much as the F2.they still 75% marans genes
5) Pick the F4 best pullets ( marans type) and cross them to a BCM Rooster = F5 they will be 87.5% marans genes.
6) Cross the F5 cockerel to his sisters/half sisters . pick the marans looking chooks = F6 no much variation in this generation by now most of the chooks looks like marans and you will see the one s currying any recessive genes they are a cull .
7) Pick the best F6 pullets and Cross them to a BCM Rooster = F7 this generation will breed true marans

ONE thing is very important is to CROSS the sibling together each type you use a new Rooster. WHY . is to breed out any recessive genes IF you don t do that you will never breed true marans BECAUSE the recessive genes of the original strain crossed to the marans will be passed down.

HOPE that Help

Very interesting and informative. Thanks, Kern

 

[chickengr]

14 of 15 survived the trip

First impressions, Don?

congrats!

my first impression is they need vitamins as soon as possible! I hope you already did that.

sorry I am not an expert to comment the chicks. but I can see their little legs wide open, that's why I say they need vitamins.

 

[scflock]

congrats!

my first impression is they need vitamins as soon as possible! I hope you already did that.

sorry I am not an expert to comment the chicks. but I can see their little legs wide open, that's why I say they need vitamins.

Yep, I started them on sav-a-chick as soon as I got them in the brooder. All were eating and drinking when I left. They've been in transit since Tuesday afternoon, so hopefully a little food, water, and heat will do them some good until I can see them again tonight

 

[sideWing]

No we don't have one. Do you know the best place to find one? I imagine printing one ourselves wouldn't result in one that is true to color

We hatched 28 this weekend, they are a mix between the Little Peddler and recently imported Greenfire Farms lines, curious to see how these turn out. So far the chicks look awesome and are very lively!

I need to get better photos of them as a group, but it was chilly out and I didn't want them away from their light too long.

Congrats on the hatch! Yes you can get a chart for $4 here: http://www.maransofamericaclub.com/moac-logo-products.html Different cameras and lighting really change the color of the eggs so it's nice to see them next to the official chart. Were the eggs you posted from the pure GFF Marans?

Yep, I started them on sav-a-chick as soon as I got them in the brooder. All were eating and drinking when I left. They've been in transit since Tuesday afternoon, so hopefully a little food, water, and heat will do them some good until I can see them again tonight

Congrats SC! I hope you get a good ratio of cockerels and pullets. Let the games begin!

 

[scflock]

Congrats on the hatch! Yes you can get a chart for $4 here: http://www.maransofamericaclub.com/moac-logo-products.html Different cameras and lighting really change the color of the eggs so it's nice to see them next to the official chart. Were the eggs you posted from the pure GFF Marans?




Congrats SC! I hope you get a good ratio of cockerels and pullets. Let the games begin!

After what I went through the first time, I wouldn't mind if half of them were cockerels. Give me more to choose from, and time to post pictures here and learn what to look for.
Since no one else ever posts pictures of Julie's birds

 

[sideWing]

After what I went through the first time, I wouldn't mind if half of them were cockerels. Give me more to choose from, and time to post pictures here and learn what to look for.
Since no one else ever posts pictures of Julie's birds

I posted plenty! Just not publicly. I will try to get new pics and post them here. I was a little heavy on cockerels and I'm really glad I was. It's tough to find a good one even with top quality birds.

 

[scflock]

I posted plenty! Just not publicly. I will try to get new pics and post them here. I was a little heavy on cockerels and I'm really glad I was. It's tough to find a good one even with top quality birds.

Your rooster is the one I really want to see. Are your pullets laying yet? The ones I hatched a few weeks before yours aren't

 

[snowbird]

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SC, Sorry I realized what was going on. Much nicer not to comment.

 

[snowbird]

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SC, Be careful of what you ask for. If anyone decides to buy chicks or eggs in the future go to Brian Parks on Marans Fanciers on FB.