Black Copper Marans discussion thread

Hey, Old Man Tom here. I posted about 20 weeks ago and had purchased 7 day old chics . 6 cockerels and 1 pullet. I had 6 cockerels processed at 19 weeks. Kept the one pullet and a Cock. Can I post a pic with only 2 post.
 
Hey, Old Man Tom here. I posted about 20 weeks ago and had purchased 7 day old chics . 6 cockerels and 1 pullet. I had 6 cockerels processed at 19 weeks. Kept the one pullet and a Cock. Can I post a pic with only 2 post.

Hey Tom, I believe they want you to post 10 times before you can post a picture. You could go ahead and try though. or just complete the 10 posts.
 
So Don while I have you on here I feel like I'm talking to a legend. I have been reading these post front to back. Almost through them twice. Currently on post 7500 second time. When I posted last time you gave me a breeders name in Oregon, Brian Parks, Frasier Park Farms. I found an e-mail address about 6 months ago and it disappeared. Any more ideas.
 
The feelings that we have and the feelings/emotions that chickens have are two entirely different things.  For instance, my chickens could care less about this post, they are more interested in singing an egg song or bathing in the sun, where as I feel this post is a very harsh, emotional and unreasonable response to a very matter of fact post.

Do you feel this way because you share the same sentiments? I'm not telling anyone how to keep their chickens. But I can voice my feelings on a comment directed at me. Which I did. I love marans. They are beautiful and have the best dispositions as far as laying birds go. We all have a love and passion for the same thing. Our birds! That's why sometimes it's hard to hear harsh and careless statements about culling a chick that's barely had life because it's an inconvenience. I feel we have a responsibility to our chickens the same as our dogs. If we become so use to their death that life is no longer valued unless it's beneficial to us then that means everyday thousands of maran chicks are being put to death prematurely for no other purpose then to make things easier on their owner. This is not love for an animal. This is simply a scientific approach to animal genetics. Not the actual animal being cared for. People say my statement is harsh but that doesn't mean it's not true. I have never told someone don't eat that bird you raised for food. Adleast that birds life is going to a cause of helping feed a family who needs the food. Up until that point they had a good life. Culling a chick before life has even been lived for a shallow purpose to me is irresponsible. I know most breeders do this. But I'd like to think they just don't know better rather then think the worst of them which would be they know these animals are alive and that they feel pain and fear yet they still get rid of them because they don't have any value. They mean so little that they can't even lay eggs for a needy family or have an actual purpose. I am very interested in the breeding of these beautiful birds. That's why I follow these threads. But sometimes the harsh views of people can be hard to swallow. :(
 
So Don while I have you on here I feel like I'm talking to a legend. I have been reading these post front to back. Almost through them twice. Currently on post 7500 second time. When I posted last time you gave me a breeders name in Oregon, Brian Parks, Frasier Park Farms. I found an e-mail address about 6 months ago and it disappeared. Any more ideas.

Let me check around and see if he has some info. out there. Will let you know shortly.
 
This thread is like the best on the internet. I love post # 7635 and post #7636 where Don and Wynette complete opposite opinions. I have read over 3yrs to 5yrs and it seems everyone is working on the same faults. White in tail feathers. Copper color too yellow, not copper but Mahogany, legs not dark enough, not enough feathers on leg. Hens without copper hackle seems to be another big one. I love this stuff.
 

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