Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[pinkchick]

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I agree geebs, my likes about this bird is the size of the base of the neck, the width of the breast and the shoulder width.
On the other hand, we should also remember that this bird is in an enviorment that may be a tad stressful if we think about it and they can stand there in un-natural on guard pose. Also, cages are distracting and can make it very difficult to get photos of the birds at angles that reflect more to true. If that were me in that cage and I had folks walking past me all day and gettin' in my business, I'd be apt to kinda stand guard and at attention more so than normal. It must take it's toll on a bird that goes to show. I'd be willing to say that if we saw this bird out ranging and not in a cage that we would probably see a slightly more relaxed bird.

 

[geebs]

Agreed (on the stance) but I still believe it is due to the shortness of the spine and small head looking at both photographs. I am just giving a critical eye. I do like the chunkiness of the bird and he could sure add something to a sinewy hen...

I wouldn't eat him!!!

 

[Casey76]

I would (if I had to)! That breast would keep me going for a week!!!

 

[geebs]

Casey, how many BC's were at the show? and did you get any other photos... I am a photo junky...

thanks for posting the other pictures

We didnt' comment too much on the little bantam.. was it BC or black variety...

We have VERY limited stock here so I think she is perfect!!!!

 

[pinkchick]

I believe Casey said there was the one BC and the Bantam BC at that show.

 

[Casey76]

Yeah, there was only one BC and one BC bantam at the show

I was surprised, as usually they are lots. However next weekend I'm going to a larger show, so hopefully more to see there

 

[marquisella]

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I copied this from the French Site..."On the other hand, the green glints in the black plumage are not so far required in the Brown-red Marans. The absence of bright glints (known as "green scarals") is a quality which is regarded as being correlative to the presence of a rather gray than black down, orangery-red eyes rather than black or brown eggs, or even punkish-white tarsus i.e to a quantity of melanin which is relatively in the skin and on the whole body contributing to the maintenance of the standard quality."

Am I interpreting it correctly that its saying the absence of "green" means less melanizing?


I think there is a typo, they meant "eyes, not eggs" in there.

 

[Debbi]

Hmm, you can't prove that theory around here. All of mine, except for the Pip cockerel, are overmelanised, and ALL have lots of beetle green. I disagree with the gray fluff too, all of mine have black fluff. I think it's the other way around; the green shows more in the overmelanised, while the more flat black color of feathers and grayish fluff tends towards the more correct coppering. Oui??

Either that, or I've got some pea soup mixed in with the rest of the crazy Marans soup mix!

 

[Debbi]

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I copied this from the French Site..."On the other hand, the green glints in the black plumage are not so far required in the Brown-red Marans. The absence of bright glints (known as "green scarals") is a quality which is regarded as being correlative to the presence of a rather gray than black down, orangery-red eyes rather than black or brown eggs, or even punkish-white tarsus i.e to a quantity of melanin which is relatively in the skin and on the whole body contributing to the maintenance of the standard quality."

Am I interpreting it correctly that its saying the absence of "green" means less melanizing?

I think there is a typo, they meant "eyes, not eggs" in there.

Well gees, I should have read that better! Less or no green would mean LESS melaninizers. Sheesh, more coffee...

 

[geebs]

less green means less melanising...yes... The balance is too much to the black (more green) and is shown in several ways... less than desirable flecking in the breast and the green on the lower 1/2 of the bird.

I hope this helps.