Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[maryhysong]

Don, it's great to have varying opinions, to be sure! You know that I respect your opinion!! Also, everyone has their "thing" - for me, if I had to choose ONE type issue that bugs me to the point of no end, it's the awful toplines that I see. The shank feathering, so long as they have it, isn't a deal breaker for me, except when I think it's FAR too heavy or plain clean.

Topline: should run DOWNHILL from base of neck to base of tail. Not drastically, and the male more than the female. But, I see more Marans (expecially the female) that have the exact opposite topline - it drives me nuts.

Wynette, when I look at these outlines tho, it appears that the back is very nearly level and only very slightly sloped. But what I get in real life, at least in some birds is a back that looks like a ski slope. Like the TX boy I showed before.

But I also understand (now, after asking here because it wasn't clear to me from reading the standard) that it should be downhill from shoulder to tail. not UPhill towards the tail.

 

[Runawaylobster]

Wynette, when I look at these outlines tho, it appears that the back is very nearly level and only very slightly sloped. But what I get in real life, at least in some birds is a back that looks like a ski slope. Like the TX boy I showed before.

But I also understand (now, after asking here because it wasn't clear to me from reading the standard) that it should be downhill from shoulder to tail. not UPhill towards the tail.

How does this work into the actual profile of the hen vs. the profile if the hen has a particularly poofy cushion.. I have one such hen, and i have often wondered if here poofy cushion makes her slope get counted as being the wrong direction??

 

[Ray from PA]

The poofy cushion is not a desirable trait, although I too have 2 hens with it. They will become part of the layer group, of course they lay a nice colored egg. Guessing the cushion will breed forward.

 

[chicken pickin]

The poofy cushion is not a desirable trait, although I too have 2 hens with it. They will become part of the layer group, of course they lay a nice colored egg. Guessing the cushion will breed forward.

Anyone know what the actual name is for the "poofy cushion"?

 

[DMRippy]

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The poofy cushion is not a desirable trait, although I too have 2 hens with it.  They will become part of the layer group, of course they lay a nice colored egg.  Guessing the cushion will breed forward.

Anyone know what the actual name is for the "poofy cushion"?

I have only ever heard it called a coshion.

 

[Broad St Farm]

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SOP calls it a cushion as well.

 

[Ray from PA]

The chest should not be solid black. The standard specifically calls for "parsimonious red spotting on the breast".


Can anyone tell me if this statement is true or is it stated that the chest should be solid black or have "some" copper ???

statement was made on a facebook thread and honestly I must get the APA Standard Book and read it for myself,,,, just looking for some clarity !

Could someone supply a link to the Marans standard so we could read it online,,,, having trouble finding the official standard.

 

[happyfrenchman]

http://marans.eu/standang.htm#standard

According to the standard I think there should be some spotting on the breast, below the cape.

 

[happyfrenchman]

It seemed to me that the description of the hen would be very similar to what you would look for in a Rhode Island Red hen... flat backed. I do not understand the Pouf.

Also, my birds seem to have very fine "whiskers" coming out of their vent area? Is this normal? Only my black coppers have it, my blues do not but my blues are from a different line.

 

[Runawaylobster]

It seemed to me that the description of the hen would be very similar to what you would look for in a Rhode Island Red hen... flat backed. I do not understand the Pouf.

Also, my birds seem to have very fine "whiskers" coming out of their vent area? Is this normal? Only my black coppers have it, my blues do not but my blues are from a different line.

that is the funniest thing i ever heard.. ... maybe be they need a brazilian wax..LOL!!

i just called them a poofy cushion to describe the cushion.. i wasn't an official name for it ..