Black Copper Marans discussion thread

Well you don't have to pen each hen all at once. Have one pen set up. Let everyone you want to breed run together. Pick a hen/pullet pull her out and collect eggs from just her for a week. Put her back and pic another one.... do that till you have a test batch from each hen. It is time consuming if you have 20 hens to work with. I don't keep that many usually. I have maybe 10 and going to cull that down to maybe 6 keepers for the year. We will see. I have about 4-5 new pullets that are near point of lay and we will see if they make it to the breeding pens.

I had a roo that I just didn't trust for some reason and after growing out some birds from him I was convinced he needed to go. I still have some chicks growing out from him and I do see lots of pullets with mossy feathers. Glad he is gone. Now if I could just get a really good roo I might be back on track with them.
If I built a 2-3 section cage or used a set of rabbit cages so they were all next to each other, do you think they would be less stressed and continue laying? I have a cabinet incubator and just can't justify running it for one hen's weekly cache of eggs. Mahalo for the good ideas!

Don't we ALL just want a really good cock/erel?
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Mahalo Wynette, this solves the visualization problem! I just wasn't thinking in the right direction. So I would just take an individual hen from my breeder pen and pop her in for a week or two, then back with the flock. Sometimes I catch them laying and mark eggs accordingly, but not often. Some hens lay distinctive eggs, but I don't want to trust that when making culling decisions.

I have 7 Marans girls total in two breeder pens right now but I'm adding a couple more breeds. This could work for me.
Keep in mind that some hens will stop laying for a bit when they are moved to a new pen...............

Last year I picked my 4 best pullets and hens and bred them to three different Males. I put two in with each Male. Their individual eggs were very distinctive and I knew which egg came from which hen so I could keep track. My goal was to hatch 20 - 25 chicks from each pairing and make sure no DQ's were showing up. It took longer to get the numbers than a group mating but I felt it was necessary.

My breeder pens are 5 chain link dog kennels with a pole type barn built around it. They are roomy and could be divided in 1/2 if I needed more pens. I also have a small Wilco/Craigslist coop that will house a single mated pair nicely and I can move it around easily.

 
If I built a 2-3 section cage or used a set of rabbit cages so they were all next to each other, do you think they would be less stressed and continue laying? I have a cabinet incubator and just can't justify running it for one hen's weekly cache of eggs. Mahalo for the good ideas!

Don't we ALL just want a really good cock/erel?
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You could do this and just rotate the Cock/Cockeral through each pen every day or every 1/2 day depending on how many hens you were working with.
 
Zanna, perfect set-up! The thing with single mating - at least for me - is that I don't do it every season. Only when I'm chasing an issue and eliminating something that I think one or a couple hens are bringing to the flock.
 
Zanna, perfect set-up! The thing with single mating - at least for me - is that I don't do it every season. Only when I'm chasing an issue and eliminating something that I think one or a couple hens are bringing to the flock.
Me too. Now that I believe I will not be contributing to the DQ issues, I will put my four best hens/pullets in with each Male and not worry about which egg is from which hen. Just get a bunch of offspring on the ground and choose the best for 2015. If issues crop up, will go back to single mating next year or later this season if I see problems early. Last year with the two new Males I wanted to be sure who was causing issues if there were any.
 
Me too. Now that I believe I will not be contributing to the DQ issues, I will put my four best hens/pullets in with each Male and not worry about which egg is from which hen. Just get a bunch of offspring on the ground and choose the best for 2015. If issues crop up, will go back to single mating next year or later this season if I see problems early. Last year with the two new Males I wanted to be sure who was causing issues if there were any.
PERFECT! And - since you're keeping good records, if you DO need to go back, you'll quickly be able to see who brought what to the equation!
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I'd be interested in peoples' single mating strategies. This is a hobby for me. I'm not interested in keeping my fowl in cages nor spending thousands of dollars building individual coop/runs. I can see how it would work out for two hens, but what about 10 or 20? Is there a practical and economical strategy for single mating for the hobby breeder that has 10-20 Marans in two breeding pens? Considering that it's 4 weeks to be safe to make certain of parentage, I'm having difficulty visualizing such a system. I'm with the runaway crustacean...this is fun and I don't want to make it drudgery.

Hobby here too, i sell stuff to pay the feed bill.. (and for practicing in case i lose my day job LOL!!)
i have a separate area under the marans main coop to separate hens or pairs and stuff.. BUT I NEED MORE!
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I'd be interested in peoples' single mating strategies. This is a hobby for me. I'm not interested in keeping my fowl in cages nor spending thousands of dollars building individual coop/runs. I can see how it would work out for two hens, but what about 10 or 20? Is there a practical and economical strategy for single mating for the hobby breeder that has 10-20 Marans in two breeding pens? Considering that it's 4 weeks to be safe to make certain of parentage, I'm having difficulty visualizing such a system. I'm with the runaway crustacean...this is fun and I don't want to make it drudgery.
I just have the two roosters and I also have a couple of broody/grower pens along with my main run. I use them for whatever. This year I am going to separate the one rooster into a nice pen with a couple of the girls he likes but so they can all still see each other all day plus both runs come with a part of the yard. I have gone a little chicken crazy and have partitioned my entire yard. It's taken two and a half years to get to this point. I tend to think that each person had to decide for themselves what works for them, their space, and their chickens. So I did stuff as I went along. Both Gangs will get to have a part of the yard to destroy. Right now they are all together in the garden part of my yard. They roost together. I do want to separate the one and a few hens but not sure how that's going to work. I'll tell you later this summer. :) I'll also probably let a few hens go with the new Gang during the day. Some I don't really care if they mate or not.
 
I'd be interested in peoples' single mating strategies. This is a hobby for me. I'm not interested in keeping my fowl in cages nor spending thousands of dollars building individual coop/runs. I can see how it would work out for two hens, but what about 10 or 20? Is there a practical and economical strategy for single mating for the hobby breeder that has 10-20 Marans in two breeding pens? Considering that it's 4 weeks to be safe to make certain of parentage, I'm having difficulty visualizing such a system. I'm with the runaway crustacean...this is fun and I don't want to make it drudgery.
Originally Posted by Viollettt

I just have the two roosters and I also have a couple of broody/grower pens along with my main run. I use them for whatever. This year I am going to separate the one rooster into a nice pen with a couple of the girls he likes but so they can all still see each other all day plus both runs come with a part of the yard. I have gone a little chicken crazy and have partitioned my entire yard. It's taken two and a half years to get to this point. I tend to think that each person had to decide for themselves what works for them, their space, and their chickens. So I did stuff as I went along. Both Gangs will get to have a part of the yard to destroy. Right now they are all together in the garden part of my yard. They roost together. I do want to separate the one and a few hens but not sure how that's going to work. I'll tell you later this summer. :) I'll also probably let a few hens go with the new Gang during the day. Some I don't really care if they mate or not.
I also meant to add that I only plan to do the move for a month or two of time. I'll need that pen when my third girl goes broody. I don't try to hatch a whole bunch but I do hatch some new ones every year for myself and for others to have new chickens, too.
 

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