Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[desertmarcy]

Once you get the color in the females you can go back to using properly colored males. However, the Old English breeders do double mate that color pattern and others as well to get properly colored show birds.

Ripster

Thanks, that is good to know. And all this time, I have been culling heavily, males with color on their breast. Guess I should have kept one or two.

 

[Zanna]

Thanks, that is good to know. And all this time, I have been culling heavily, males with color on their breast. Guess I should have kept one or two.

I have been gradually improving colour on my females using two males, one Mahogany and the other his Son that has more correct colour but a very slight halo that came in as he aged. Have not kept any overcoloured boys either. This year using the son back over some of his daughters and my 3 hens that I used last year (none have any copper on them) over one of their sons. He is a little dark as well. We shall see...............

 

[GaryDean26]

Is that Bayhorsebonnie line? I have it written down in some file on my old computer lol. I will have to look. BUT, I hatched a BTB from the Bayhorsebonnie so that must be in there as well if its the same person. Nice large BCMs hens from that line with nice big dark brown/red eggs. I have them separate from my other lines because I do not like the way the roosters combs are from that line. No sprigs but big super thick ugly combs.

Bayhorsebonnie's real name is Donna. She lives in Norco, California. Linda Hamid is in Roseville, CA.

My understanding is that Linda had/has pure Wade Jeane line birds and Donna had (not longer keeps BCM if I am not mistaken) a mixed line of Jeane/Davis birds.

P.S. I know what you mean by big ugly combs. There is a breeder near me that has placed many Champion Marans at poultry shows, but the BCM's have what I call a Leghorn Comb. It just looks all wrong and out of place.

 

[Ihilani Coffee]

New cockerel 6.5 months old. I know he has some tailfeathers that are white at the base. I know he is not "uphill" at the backline. He has a tremendously wide chest and width that carries to the hindquarters. His shank/toe feathering is light but it is there. Yes, more crappy cell phone photos.






He's better than the squirrel-tailed, wheaten-haloed, recessive-white-carrying cock I have now. What else do you see?

 

[FVRM]

I hatch some blue/black/splash copper marans and i got two chicks that were completely off. They were yellow with bright orange feet. I think they may be wheatens, what do you guys think?





on the last pic you can see the nice pattern on the wing

 

[GaryDean26]

I can't see the markings very well, but the chick in the top left corner of the box in the first photo is showing a faint dorsal stripe. I would guess that one is showing the recessive partridge coloring. I have only hatched 3 wheatens, but all of them got red coloring on their wings when the first primaries came in. I am black and white coloring on the wings of these. Mark them all and see how they grow out.

 

[DMRippy]

I hatch some blue/black/splash copper marans and i got two chicks that were completely off. They were yellow with bright orange feet. I think they may be wheatens, what do you guys think?





on the last pic you can see the nice pattern on the wing

I would be worried about the yellow legs at that age. That is recessive and takes 2 copies to express so you Cock/erel and at least one hen/pullet is carrying yellow legs.

Are you SURE they came from your marans pen? I don't see much of a comb, what kind of comb is it? Feathered legs?

 

[FVRM]

I would be worried about the yellow legs at that age. That is recessive and takes 2 copies to express so you Cock/erel and at least one hen/pullet is carrying yellow legs.

Are you SURE they came from your marans pen? I don't see much of a comb, what kind of comb is it? Feathered legs?

The marans have very few feathered feet. They lean more towards the english breed than the french. The comb is very small because it's a young pullet but it's regular not rosecomb or anything. It hatched from a dark maran egg.

 

[Runawaylobster]

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is is possible that another roo stopped by for a visit? They do look like wheatens but i have forgotten what color legs the wheatens start out with,...... did you buy the eggs or did you get them from your own hens?

 

[DMRippy]

Quote: Most of my chicks hatch with more yellow looking legs but by that age it should be gone. If not I would be very worried.