Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[bigshawn]

No they don't.^^^^^

 

[RFR of CA]

Little Peddler imported hers from France and has all non usa stock. Greenfire imported last year and is now selling chicks from them also.

 

[Alaskan]

I am starting to hatch lots of Marans eggs this spring...

I haven't kept records (tsk tsk to me), but I am starting to wonder if the nicest color eggs are the ones most likely to not hatch...


Anyone else notice that?

 

[cutipatooti]

Little Peddler imported hers from France and has all non usa stock. Greenfire imported last year and is now selling chicks from them also. 

Did Greenfire get them from the same place as little pedler?

 

[One Chick Two]

Hope this is not a dumb question, but don't all Marans trace back to Bev Davis since she is the one who imported them??????? Has anyone else imported any? tia

Yes, there have been different parties importing Black Coppers.

Bev Davis, Wade Jeanne, Cottage Hill, Greenfire Farms, and Little Peddler. I had heard Wade Jeanne and Little Peddler each had stock from the same French Master breeder, but years apart.

If importing wasn't so full of red tape and hoops (besides $$$$) we would consider importing as well to add additional genetic diversity in the US.

 

[snowbird]

Sure a lot of names being mentioned here with no verification on any of them. Marans were imported here before many year ago. Don

 

[One Chick Two]

Here's an update on the questionable chick, Richard Sherman. The original verdict was cockerel from experts here.

I've been told that Marans from Cackle mature early and look scary/roostery at an early age, but I've got my doubts still.

No crowing yet, and I've included a picture of the feathers if that's helpful. Still thinking cockerel?

Thought this photo may help. I suggest digging into your little one's saddle area feather, right in front of the tail, down to the skin.

Here's a cockerel (and pullet to the right) slightly younger to the age of yours. Notice how much smaller the comb is on the pullet. Now, there can be pullets with unusually large combs early on, but this is far less common.


In front of this cockerel's tail base, he had a slightly less feathered area (your little one's photo was in shade in both photos so it was hard for me to see this area well enough)

Tiny, spiked saddle feathers were just at the skin base starting to grow in next to fuzz. Some lines won't even get in fuzz, but will be bald in this area until the saddle feathers come in. Other lines will feather in fully and look just like a pullet in feathering, then grow in saddle feathers if they have a later feathering propensity.

This male eventually lost his stiff, roundish, juvie (hennish type) tail feathers and his new, pointed-edged feathers came in green, ends drooping downward. (Females have rounded tail feathers that do not droop downward.)

 

[One Chick Two]

Sure a lot of names being mentioned here with no verification on any of them. Marans were imported here before many year ago. Don

Don, are you referring to the Hunter, Fugate or Ripley line cuckoo Marans brought in from the 60's? Saw this- talks about the first lines in the US.

History of the Marans lines in the USA- part one.


Is there perhaps someone else who brought in the first lines of Black Coppers other than those mentioned?

 

[RFR of CA]

LP marans are from "France's Champion Breeder Monique Berte." Below is a Bing translation from a French newpaper article on Monique Berte. Notice the last line....

"""Monique Berte, poultry farmer, was appointed Knight of the order of agricultural merit. This distinction hasbeen submitted November 22, 2011, in the hall of honour of Montpellier Sup Agro by Claude Balland,prefect of the region of Languedoc-Roussillon and Hérault, in the presence of Pierre Signoret, departmentalpresident of the association of the members of the order of agricultural merit: a reward not spoofed for thispassionate poultry farmer at the long course without fault.
Her poultry have been repeatedly champions and vice-championnes of France, not to mention many other titles, including an exhaustive list would be too long to prepare.
In addition, Monique Berte has important responsibilities, concerning 'Mahmood' poultry and is an honorarymember of the 'marans of America club'. She is involved in the agricultural colleges, has designed afeathered animal health book that is authoritative, participated in the drafting of the paper on the 'Mahmood', lectured, represented the 'marans' in the Netherlands...
This specialist knows everything legislation and caring for poultry: rings EA (European Agreement)mandatory protection against vermin, disinfection of the soil, maintenance of incubators, Chickbrooders/outbreaks, vaccinations, food... And focuses on organic products and recycling manure fertilizer. Init, nothing is lost, everything is transformed.
In 2011, she participated in the European Championship of the egg of hen 'marans' (chocolate color uf) at the Salon de l'Agriculture in Paris, where she brought 717 eggs. The same year, she has been sacred regional champion and champion of France in Toulouse in Millau, for the beauty of his chickens, to respond to very sharp selection criteria: crete perfect, it red-orange, beautiful back line, emplumement to the legs.
Monique sends eggs to the four corners of the world, only charging port. That is why, one of her shipments to the USA, in Arkansas, her eggs placed in incubators, gave birth to a hen and a rooster who won the title of champions of Atlanta."""

I will have a group of them producing for 2016.


Greenfire Farms imported eggs from another source in 2014. (waiting on import papers from them). They also will open on our ranch from a separate pen in 2016.


Christine


Rare Feathers Ranch

 

[cocoamarley]

Looks like a girl!