Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[Alaskan]

I don't care if it is counted as a fault or not..... (Or, I guess I don't care much )

I care that it is possible to get a feathered foot without the "rudimentary toe"

And, with no scientific basis whatsoever, I just think that other toe deformities are more likely in birds that have the rudimentary toe (thank you very much for giving me the proper terminology).

I don't actually know though, only a guess.... If anyone on here has some other idea as to what deformed toes could be linked to... Or maybe it truly is linked to nothing clearly visible....


However, whatever the case, I want to make sure that next breeding season I end up breeding zero deformed toes... So
I did a hard cull and removed all birds with rudimentary toes, thinking that the one deformity might/could be linked to the other.

 

[snowbird]

I don't care if it is counted as a fault or not..... (Or, I guess I don't care much

)

I care that it is possible to get a feathered foot without the "rudimentary toe"

And, with no scientific basis whatsoever, I just think that other toe deformities are more likely in birds that have the rudimentary toe (thank you very much for giving me the proper terminology).

I don't actually know though, only a guess.... If anyone on here has some other idea as to what deformed toes could be linked to... Or maybe it truly is linked to nothing clearly visible....

However, whatever the case, I want to make sure that next breeding season I end up breeding zero deformed toes... So
I did a hard cull and removed all birds with rudimentary toes, thinking that the one deformity might/could be linked to the other.

Most Toe deformities are caused by not knowing how to set up an incubator for hatching. I hatch several thousand chickens, guinea and Quail a year with no problems.

 

[Alaskan]

Toe deformities, as in the webbing so tight that two toes are held up against each other so that the chick is not able to walk properly and another one which was much the same, except that the ends of the toes, the middle one and the outer feathered toe were actually grown together at the nail.

I posted pictures on this tread asking for input.... There was no response.

I assume the above are not due to incubator issues since none of the other breeds that I have hatched have ever had anything similar.

When you say "foot issues due to incubation" I would guess you are talking about curled toes and such which are often due to improper humidity.

 

[Alaskan]

Or perhaps splayed legs if the hatcher has a slick surface? Whatever... Not what I meant.

 

[NTBugtraq]

Am I being too persistent in asking for comments on my purebred BCM roo, posted in post #10819...now 4 pages ago? I have recently received 2 additional purebred BCM roos, 3 weeks old, from the same breeder.

 

[Sylvester017]

Am I being too persistent in asking for comments on my purebred BCM roo, posted in post #10819...now 4 pages ago? I have recently received 2 additional purebred BCM roos, 3 weeks old, from the same breeder.

Either no one is commenting to hurt your feelings or else they're too jealous to praise your birds -

They look very beautiful to me but then I don't show or raise BCMs -

I've only had one Cuckoo and a couple years ago at that!
On questions re taking good photos - I have a problem using my digital auto focusing camera because by the time I wait a couple seconds for it to self-adjust the lens my chicken is gone! My DH says I need to get away from a Digital camera and upgrade to a Mirrorless camera or a DLSR camera or a hybrid of the two. On sale I couldn't find anything lower than $400 and most are $600-$1000+++. I'll have to go to Best Buy electronics and check out the available cameras that won't take an Oxford degree to operate! I want something lightweight and small but the good ones are heavier and bigger than I care to hold. And why spend $500+++ on a piece of equipment that'll be outdated in 12 months with some newer better model at more $$$.

 

[blackbirds13]

Am I being too persistent in asking for comments on my purebred BCM roo, posted in post #10819...now 4 pages ago? I have recently received 2 additional purebred BCM roos, 3 weeks old, from the same breeder.

His condition and the way the photos are taken make it hard for me to assess him fairly. His wing carriage is low (higher roost may help), featherless shanks it looks like. His tail angle looks ok but his back looks short to me in the photos. Whats left of hackle looks like it has white in the photos and the missing saddle feathers and bald spot would need to be remediated first for a good assessment. They probably will not grow back till he molts out again. I would not breed him given what i see in these images. But im no expert. If you had some good single images with more clarity it would help.

 
Am I being too persistent in asking for comments on my purebred BCM roo, posted in post #10819...now 4 pages ago? I have recently received 2 additional purebred BCM roos, 3 weeks old, from the same breeder.

Either no one is commenting to hurt your feelings or else they're too jealous to praise your birds -  
They look very beautiful to me but then I don't show or raise BCMs -    I've only had one Cuckoo and a couple years ago at that!
On questions re taking good photos - I have a problem using my digital auto focusing camera because by the time I wait a couple seconds for it to self-adjust the lens my chicken is gone!  My DH says I need to get away from a Digital camera and upgrade to a Mirrorless camera or a DLSR camera or a hybrid of the two.  On sale I couldn't find anything lower than $400 and most are $600-$1000+++.  I'll have to go to Best Buy electronics and check out the available cameras that won't take an Oxford degree to operate!  I want something lightweight and small but the good ones are heavier and bigger than I care to hold.  And why spend $500+++ on a piece of equipment that'll be outdated in 12 months with some newer better model at more $$$.

I own a full frame DSLR Canon 6D. I teach my students on Canon T3i DSLR cameras they are great cameras and do not become obsolete very quickly like their much cheaper point and shoot counterparts. The T5i is a great amateur level camera that even pros can use. I like Canon but Nikon and others are fine too. The difference in the quality of the photo you can take with a good working knowledge of a DSLR and lenses can be quite stark. My students are always amazed at the degree of positive change in their photos and skills at the end of each class. I love my 6D camera but its a $2000 camera. You get what you pay for.

 

[goatman303]

Hi everyone,

I've just started showing CB Marans. However I have not had much success. Could anyone tell me what the judges are looking for in a good one?

Thanks, Ian.

 

[Sylvester017]

I own a full frame DSLR Canon 6D. I teach my students on Canon T3i DSLR cameras they are great cameras and do not become obsolete very quickly like their much cheaper point and shoot counterparts. The T5i is a great amateur level camera that even pros can use. I like Canon but Nikon and others are fine too. The difference in the quality of the photo you can take with a good working knowledge of a DSLR and lenses can be quite stark. My students are always amazed at the degree of positive change in their photos and skills at the end of each class. I love my 6D camera but its a $2000 camera. You get what you pay for.

I figured a camera buff would chime in re: cameras! Yep, the cameras I looked at were definitely in the $1000-$3000 range, are larger, and have a ba-jillion accessories, and on a senior income I really have to pass. Quality of the pic isn't as critical to me as having a camera that you don't have to wait between takes. My digital camera pics enlarge on the computer screen more beautifully than I could've imagined or at least to my satisfaction and my DH has my desktop scanning through my photo albums on a timed display - they are pretty pics in the outdoors, insects, flowers, or posed people/group shots - I am somewhat unhappy with the ones that used flash indoors, some are very good yet some don't capture tiny details correctly (still do-able) and panoramic shots are moot since we don't travel. My major and foremost complaint is having to wait between takes to get the split-second pose - chickens (and babies) are constantly moving. My hand shakes as does most people's when taking a camera shot but I don't want to deal with a tripod for steadying my hand. The tripod is useful for closeup shots of my garden still life - but a tripod is not useful for following active chickens. I know I'm asking for the impossible but my DH thinks there's a couple models that will work for me without wiping out our bank account. That was nice of you sharing your expertise and I'm sure your expensive equipment (to me) gives excellent quality but I know I gotta pass. I agree that Canon has excelled for decades in photo quality in lenses and copiers and that Nikon lenses/cameras are excellent too. Years ago we had an Olympus using macro and micro Nikon lenses but that era of hobbying for us is that we've been there/done that. Now I just want something like "make it simple, stupid!" - ha!

 

[scflock]

I figured a camera buff would chime in re: cameras! Yep, the cameras I looked at were definitely in the $1000-$3000 range, are larger, and have a ba-jillion accessories, and on a senior income I really have to pass. Quality of the pic isn't as critical to me as having a camera that you don't have to wait between takes. My digital camera pics enlarge on the computer screen more beautifully than I could've imagined or at least to my satisfaction and my DH has my desktop scanning through my photo albums on a timed display - they are pretty pics in the outdoors, insects, flowers, or posed people/group shots - I am somewhat unhappy with the ones that used flash indoors, some are very good yet some don't capture tiny details correctly (still do-able) and panoramic shots are moot since we don't travel. My major and foremost complaint is having to wait between takes to get the split-second pose - chickens (and babies) are constantly moving. My hand shakes as does most people's when taking a camera shot but I don't want to deal with a tripod for steadying my hand. The tripod is useful for closeup shots of my garden still life - but a tripod is not useful for following active chickens. I know I'm asking for the impossible but my DH thinks there's a couple models that will work for me without wiping out our bank account. That was nice of you sharing your expertise and I'm sure your expensive equipment (to me) gives excellent quality but I know I gotta pass. I agree that Canon has excelled for decades in photo quality in lenses and copiers and that Nikon lenses/cameras are excellent too. Years ago we had an Olympus using macro and micro Nikon lenses but that era of hobbying for us is that we've been there/done that. Now I just want something like "make it simple, stupid!" - ha!

That's the one upside to having a DQ BCM. The Iphone camera is plenty